Oh yeah, I'll give you that.

I think I'll use text messages if I need to tell her something without freaking out over being in the moment. I don't know why I didn't consider that before--it just never occurred to me.

Sounds just like someone I have to work with sometimes.

Chris K, you know, despite Matthew's best efforts to be cynical, if she did listen to that message and she offered not to listen to it for you, then that means she really wants to give you a chance! \o/

I know everyone's saying it and I know it's easier said than done, but the one thing I'd say is try to fit thinking about her into your daily routine in a healthy way. Try to focus on work during the day, and occupy yourself outside of work when you're not with her or preparing to meet her or whatever. You can spend some time thinking about her, but not too much. It's important just generally not to let it consume you. In the run-up to Christmas 2005, I was consumed by thoughts of a girl, and I wasn't functioning well at work. In that particular case, me getting rejected was unrelated and was due to her being a complete waste of space, but even so, the effect on my work was not good.

Here's a more pertinent example. If you arrange a date, but for whatever reason you don't manage it, then it's natural to be a bit upset about it but it's not the end of the world to have to wait another few days for another chance. You have other stuff in your life to keep you from getting too depressed about one small thing like that, and she's in it with you too (hopefully) so you definitely don't want to put the blame on to her. If she seems to want to spend time with you, then trust her. You would want her to trust you: if you wanted to spend time with her and she kept challenging you and telling you you didn't, how long would you like her for? Of course if she gives you good reason not to trust her, you have to bring it up, but even then there are nice ways of doing it so she has the chance to reassure you or apologise (as appropriate) and you can trust her even more.

I sound like a drunken man in a pub, don't I

If you feel as if something's gone wrong again, then just do what I tend to do: take it in and think about it for a while. If you can do that without feeling hot and bothered, then you'll give yourself the freedom to re-evaluate anything you might have misunderstood - such as the exact meaning of "I have to do something else on Sunday" above. Keeping your feelings private for a bit will protect you against issues of pride and not wanting to admit you were wrong - and of course against doing damage by being wrong - and staying calm about it will help you to be objective and not assume the worst - and of course make you appear secure and attractive.

Good luck

Ah yes, there no truer way to a woman's heart then spamming her.

Science has proven that woman are evil. I'll have to dig up that thread that were I presented the proof....

And if nothing else at least she didn't tell you that she 'only dates black guys'.

No one is discussing the existence of god, just wether or not you should have brought him up in that message (where the answer is no). If he exists or not is pretty irrelevant to that point.

When she can get a connection? None that I know. Heck, I don't think I know anyone who doesn't check their voicemail when they pick up their phone and find that they've missed a call.

It works out to 666?

'Apparently not, love!'
Yeah, well... that's annoying anyway. Not much you can do about that one unless you're really good at picking up women.

EDIT@CK: just in case you somehow missed this: it will be pretty obvious to her that you have a crush on her. Don't assume otherwise.

Was that the girls = time * money; time = money; therefore girls = money^2, while money is the "root of evil" (sqrt(evil)), making girls = (sqrt(evil))^2, simplified, girls = evil.

I saw that someplace a while ago. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Chris: what were we saying to you? Plus it even ended in a better way, she apologised to you , so it seems that she is interested in you as well Now all you need is to let the things happen.

Kent: you seem to not understand that those people saying something about asking for advice on women are making fun of being geeky?

One thing should be remembered, being programmer doesn't necessary mean you don't have a chance in relationship - I for myself have fun about geeky anecdotes, about the humor here and with my geeky friends, but also I can normaly converse and live if necessary. As WH pointed out, there are lot's of people here are married or have girlfriends. There are even lot of people with actual expirience. Well and there are some exceptions who are being cynical and making just fun. (me points at Piccolo )

Unfortunately I seem not to understand the second part of your post So let's just drop this one.

He means this:

Basically the same thing.

Edit: oh, and I agree. People poke fun at the fact that the a.cc community doesn't exactly fit the "womanizer" stereotype. However, if I really wanted good advise (on just about anything, really) this is probably the best forum to ask, since people are sincere, civil, and mostly helpful...

We sure do!

Don't listen to any dating advice for Neil Walker, and your life will be much more productive.

and you have better advice? when you're young you have a long lifetime ahead to form relationships, marriage, etc. and spoiling it with teenage/young-adult angst is not the way to go.

As an analogy, it's a bit like what you do after finishing school at 16/17/18: yes you can get a job straight away and earn money but in the long term you'll probably look back and hate the decision. Go to university and learn more about life and people and in the long term you'll probably look back and love the decision you made, and come out of it having had far more sex to boot