At least that you know of. How many failures are hypnotherapists not reporting?

So why are you even quoting a meaningless statistic that someone likely pulled out of their ass?

What is your opinion on enlarging your penis via one of Wendi's CDs?

I'm trying figure out if you should be to the left or right of Derezo on the crazy scale.

That's kind of a cop out answer. Do you think somebody could potentially have their penis grow due to legitimate face-to-face hypnotherapy?

Could somebody grow a second penis? Is there anything the mind cannot do, in your opinion?

Maybe they could make you think it was bigger!

Your own early reply said you don't even think they are reliable and you're the pro-hypnosis guy here. Especially if there aren't any follow ups, you can't know what the success rate is.

Um, what? I didn't say there were no follow-ups and I didn't say the statistics themselves were unreliable. I could say a lot of different things about a lot of different success rates with different therapists who have different methodologies and business models. Of course we can know the success rate, depending on how you go about researching it. I don't know specifically what they did. Neither do you. But you'll call it an ass-pull because it fits your worldview. Okay, cool. Don't put words in my mouth, kthx.

If your genes don't code for it, your subconscious won't know how to do it. Sorry to shatter your dreams.

Either you should be MUCH clearer, or you need to make up your mind. So far you've given two different answers for several questions. Its like you give the most convenient answer at the time to a given question.

See I was more on your side at the beginning, but your "defence" so far leaves a lot to be desired.

append: Besides I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted exactly what you yourself said.

And there's your classic non-argument. Once you get to a point you realize you're not getting anywhere you just quit

You beat me to it.

It's the perfect business. You lost both your arms in the Iraq war? No problem! Come to me and I can help you regrow your arms. It's coded in your DNA, all I have to do is help you unlock your subconscious power.

After six sessions with six easy payments of $500, nothing happens. Sorry sir, you just didn't believe enough. No refunds.

Because all of that stuff truly is "in the mind." But being able to help somebody with one of those things is no proof that hypnosis unlocks some subconscious power. Making that jump is ludicrous.

The success rate of physical change is "low" because it's bogus.

Is this a question of the legitimacy of hypnotism? I mean, if suggestion wasn't successful we wouldn't have television commercials. They wouldn't work if hypnotism didn't work. There's very little difference. You repeat suggestions into your subject that are crafted in a way that will get the action you want.

Just like commercials, it's effectiveness is limited; first and foremost by the number of subjects exposed to it.

So so far it seems to me that even the hypnosis supporters can't prove its any better than the placebo effect. Why not just sell capsules full of icing sugar for $100 a bottle, and tell them it'll work after one month, or their money back?