http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/592582

Ooh, can I have your permission to use that in an RPG?

... no, I'm not joking.

thanks!

Nice try, but I know it's fake! Only the upper teeth of alligators can be seen when their jaws are closed (unless they are deformed...). (Unless it's just white tribal markings, then maybe it is real!)

More, more, more!

http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/129999/130007#target

Cheers!

I like Mark's suggestion of using it in variations too. I can see the glowing alex being used for Neon Wars.

I like the variations, too.

I wonder... Could someone gifted in the ways of the pixels make one that looks... well, presidential?

I have a (bad) idea for a new demo, a platformer featuring Alex!

Mark Oates: LOLgators?

http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/592591

http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/592593

http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/592590

http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/592594

When deciding on a logo, we must bear in mind the types of games that Allegro is best suited to making. IMO, Allegro is best suited to making sprite-based games - that is, games using pixel-art instead of vector-art. Johan Peitz's games are a good example of this. Not only that, but he also designed Alex (or is that Alix) the Alligator. This means that whatever logo we chose, it should have a pixelly/rasterised look. I like the one Onewing posted. It would make a good icon. Perhaps we could use the vectorised 'A' with a pixellated Alex like the one on http://alleg.sourceforge.net/logos.html
alex.png
If we do go the way of the vectorised image, I would encourage it to be rendered to a smaller bitmap which is zoomed to give it a pixelly effect. I still think there should be an official 32x32 icon, and even a 16x16 icon (which could be used as the Allegro webpage's favicon). Both these icons should be limted to 16 colours to not only encourage the low-colour look, but to make it easier for people working with limited palettes to include the logo. In fact, we could even embed these two icons inside the DLL so anyone can grab and display whatever the official Allegro icon happens to be. It would be good if the Allegro tools and test-programs used this icon (although it might make the Allegro examples unnescescarily complex if they use the icon as well).

What I'd also like to see is an official 1-bit bitmap. That is, just one colour. It can be used to darken an area, shift the hue, or use do other interesting effects with colourspace-channels.

As well as the "A", the word "Allegro" could also be created using the same font just in case somebody needs it.

Although Alex (Alix?) has been on the Allegro web-page for some time, he has sort of seeped into the subconciousnesses of the Allegro community. Not onyl that, but his retro/pixelly look is consistent with what I had in mind. Therefore, I think he should be declared the official mascot.

I think it's good to have some official logo, so that anyone who wants to use a logo in a splash-screen or a credits-screen can have a bitmap to use if they want to use one. If everyone uses the same bitmap, it will give an identity to Allegro games (the 'Allegro' logo/mascot will be consistent accross several gmaes). The only way to harmonise the 'Allegro' bitmap usage is to declare one official. What I'm not arguing for is to make using it compulsory, as not everyone wants to mention what libraries they used.

The official logo could be used in the documentation, the Allego Demo-game, the test.exe program, and the icon can be used for various EXEs that come with Allegro. Also, it's nice to have an official mascot.

It definitely came from the ST Demoscene, but I'm not sure where it originated. For all I know, it could have originated on an Amiga demo and have been ripped by an ST demo-group. Nethertheless, I seem to remember that font appeared in more ST demos than any other font. But nethertheless, I'm surte that just about any graphics/fonts etc that originated on the ST/Amiga demoscene in the 80's must be in the public-domain by now.

The logo has a chrome 80's ish look which gives it an oldskool appeal. I have zoomed it 2x to make it look more pixelly because Allegro is suitable for sprite/bitmap based graphics.

As I said above, I'm pretty sure the font is public domain. I'm sure Demo-crews of the 80's really don't care.

Isn't that what most Allegro games are like?

How about Allegrogators.

Hey, I saw him first

LOLligators!

Anyway, here is a list of my preferences for the logo (my favourite first).

#1: The pixelated A with Alex (or is that Alix) the Alligator that Onewing posted. No matter what the size, the resolution of the logo in 'pixels' should be no more than 32x32

#2: The vectorised version with Mark Oates's 'more saturated' colours (or colours similar to the ones in the pixelated logo). Oh, and if we're giving the Alligator a white outline, I vote that we give the 'A' an additional white outline on top of the black outline.

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#3: My proposal (or a variation thereof)

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#4: Sevalecan Dragon's 2nd one (with red 3D text).

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#5: relpatseht's

http://allegro.cc/files/attachment/592417

#6: Derezo's 1st one (the PONG themed one)

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#7: Peter Wang's one with the curly brackets

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I think that the 'Allegro' ASCII-art logo currently used in the docs should be the official ASCII-art allegro logo.

     ______   ___    ___
    /\  _  \ /_ \  /_ \
    \ \ \L\ \//\ \ //\ \      __     __   _ __   ___ 
     \ \  __ \ \ \ \  \ \ \   /'__`\ /'_ `/\`'__/ __`\
      \ \ /\ \ _\ _ _\ _/\  __//\ \L\ \ \ //\ \L\ \
       \ _\ _/____/____\ ____\ ____ \ _\\ ____/
	/_//_//____//____//____//___L\ /_/ /___/
				       /____/
				       _/__/

As for the Allegro motto, I propose "Hey Allegro, you are the one.".

AE.

(In reference to Andrei's post.) If it were 1992, I'd agree with you. But it's not, so I don't. Of the logos in your post, I think all of them (besides #2) are pretty much all-out horrible.

But this why I'm not in favor of an "official" logo; once you slap "official" on it, people get all upset that their favorite wasn't chosen. Just let people use whatever logo they want without feeling compelled to use some specific one. (Sure, the demo game can include a logo, but it wouldn't be any more "official" than the Allegro 4.0 FLIC.)

Allegro doesn't need some standard logo to achieve brand recognition. It will always remain a library used primarily by a handful of hobbyist game makers, regardless of if we use a fancy logo, a low color bitmap, or none at all.

Thirded. Low quality graphics suck. Unless I misunderstand something, Allegro is capable of handling professional art.

Ohh, Can I get a mix of these two?

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Basically, I like the nose in the former, but it needs the little black outline on the right side of Alex thats in the second. Also, I'd like a transparent bg