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Chrysler's view on Global Warming.. |
Derezo
Member #1,666
April 2001
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Quote: Has any of you seen the movie Idiocracy [imdb.com]? Nope, but it sounds hilarious. I'll watch it tomorrow when the download is complete. Quote: After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film I love how the article reads like a joke, but it's actually serious...I think. Every time he is quoted this guy is stating his beliefs and I laugh out loud. Is that normal? "He who controls the stuffing controls the Universe" |
Kauhiz
Member #4,798
July 2004
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Quote: Is that normal? Is it normal that people in news articles are laughable or is it normal to laugh at this guy? If you meant the latter, then yes, its perfectly normal. I'd be worried if I didn't laugh at stuff like this. --- |
HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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Another interesting movie: Jesus Camp __________ |
SonShadowCat
Member #1,548
September 2001
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Think of the bright side, what better way to test humanity's worthiness to survive than a great cataclysm. |
HardTranceFan
Member #7,317
June 2006
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Quote: Cow flatuance is a significant source of greenhouse gases The quote reminded me of this recent kiwi cartoon... {"name":"591004","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/f\/e\/fe5af371558bfaac5a3dca41ad36e139.jpg","w":436,"h":340,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/f\/e\/fe5af371558bfaac5a3dca41ad36e139"} -- |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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It's like peanut butter and chocolate, aquariums and toilets .... -- |
LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: he quote reminded me of this recent kiwi cartoon... Yeah, Tremain is brilliant. Sometimes he's the only reason I read the paper.
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Quote: Then there'd be even more cows! And I'd be out of a job. The vegans keep yammering about "killing innocent animals", but they fail to recogninze how those millions of cows wouldn't have grazed at all without market forces paying for their pastures. Without the beef industry, there'd be a few hundred aurouchs wandering around in the Middle East, period. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
Andrei Ellman
Member #3,434
April 2003
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I'm feeling too lazy to read through this entire thread, so instead, I thought I'd post a collection of counter-arguments to arguments commonly spouted out by so-called 'global warming skeptics'. + Global warming will make the winters more bearable. + But global warming will eliminate the cold and miserable weather. + Thinking that humans can change the climate is arrogance? + Human activity produces insignificant ammounts of CO2 compared to volcanism, etc. + Records show that at various stages in the past (eg. the medieval warm-period, before the last ice-age, the Eocene Climatic Optimum, etc.) the temperasture is warmer than what it is now, and look - the planet's still here. + But if weather forecasters have trouble predicting the weather two days in advance, how are we going to trust someone who claims to know what the weather is going to be like 50 years from now? + First, you said the planet would freeze, then you said global warming is going to happen, and then you said it was going to freeze again. Make up your minds! + If climate models of today are better than predictions in the '70s, why should we believe them when they say global warming is happening? + If global warming is going to happen, it's God's will and we shouldn't intefere. + But reducing CO2 emissions will harm the economy. + But our country only accounts for a tiny fraction of CO2 emissions. + Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill. While it has not conclusively been proven that the manmade CO2 increase is going to have a siginificant climate impact, we should consider the risk. The following ASCII diagram sums up te situation. We do something We do nothing +-------------------+-----------------+ | | | CO2 does not lead to climate change | Everything OK | Everything OK | | | | +-------------------+-----------------+ | | | CO2 leads to climate change | Everything OK | We're gakked! | | | | +-------------------+-----------------+ As you can see, there are two variables. Whether or not CO2 leads to climate change, and whether or not we're going to do anything about it. The role of CO2 is unknown so the state of that variable could be anywhere. However, the whether-or-not-we-do-something variable is something that we have control over. Doing nothing would place us in the right column in the diagram, and if CO2 does lead to climate change, untold damage will be done to our lovely planet. I don't think it's worth taking the risk of hoping that our selfishness has no effect on the climate. If we break the climatic equilibrium, we could risk venus-forming the entire planet. But even if not for the percieved threat of global warming, bear in mind that the automobile has contributed to the fragmentation of communities, and the aeroplane has reduced the mystique of far off places. If we commuted by bicycle, and went on holiday by train, we'd be more in touch with ourselves and the world around us. AE. -- |
HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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+ Global warming will make the winters more bearable. You probably don't know how global warming affects the Gulf stream. Read about it from this thread __________ |
Kauhiz
Member #4,798
July 2004
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+ First, you said the planet would freeze, then you said global warming is going to happen, and then you said it was going to freeze again. Make up your minds! Nope, he mentioned that. --- |
gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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For the Gods' sake, please just let this thread die... -- |
Andrei Ellman
Member #3,434
April 2003
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I do. I was just listing some commonly held views held by global warming skeptics. I could just as well make the point I made like so: + Cooling due to the shutting down of the gulf stream will make the summers more bearable. AE. -- |
Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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Quote:
+ Records show that at various stages in the past (eg. the medieval warm-period, before the last ice-age, the Eocene Climatic Optimum, etc.) the temperasture is warmer than what it is now, and look - the planet's still here. Along those lines, somewhere above I failed to point out that the argument "CO2 levels and temperature were higher during the Carbon period than they are now, so everything will be fine" is invalid: most lifeforms on Earth today would die out if you transported them instantaneously to that time period. Heck, in the distant past the atmosphere was mostly nitrogen, methane and carbon dioxide and by the same argument it would be fine to bring the atmospheric composition back to that - next to nothing alife today would survive in such an atmosphere, let alone the high temperature that would go with it. All that's fine for life on Earth as a whole, of course. Nothing we can do to it is worse than what's been done to it before. All we need to worry about is wether or not the Earth is a pleasant place to live for us. And for that, it's not what the climate will be like ten thousand years from now that matters, it's what it's like ten years from now that does. |
Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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Some of my threads never die easily. It's a gift. |
Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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and now Bush is going to save the world from global warming it might just go on for a bit longer yet Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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Quote: Bush is going to save the world from global warming He's going to resign? |
Kauhiz
Member #4,798
July 2004
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Quote: and now Bush is going to save the world from global warming it might just go on for a bit longer yet Oh, come on, give the guy a break! Everything else he's set out to do has worked out just fine. --- |
Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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Quote: He's going to resign? Almost, in his speech yesterday he says by 2020 the average American car engine will be under 4 litres. Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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Quote: under 4 litres He knows about liters!?!? __________ |
nonnus29
Member #2,606
August 2002
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Yeah, you know liters, in the alphabet. |
LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: He knows about liters!?!? Yeah, but he probably thinks a litre is the size of a 20 gallon drum.
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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don't Americans measure engine capacity by the litre? or is it by cups over here in Blighty imperial measurements rule the waves (and rightly so, ignoring the views of Thomas Harte, of course who's pro-european ), but we use litres to measure the size of engine (but imperial everywhere else, e.g. bhp, mph, mpg, tyre pressure in pounds, etc.) Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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They are using cubic inches instead of liters. __________ |
Lucid Nightmare
Member #5,982
July 2005
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Start playing Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire/Alpha Centauri and all your questions will be answered. Two Golden Rules of life- Firstly, I'm always right and secondly, if you think otherwise, slap your face and read rule number one again! |
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