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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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Be a man, watch it in japanese with subs! Learn some japanese that way :P

Adol
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May 2002
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Learn some japanese that way

Not much. Unless you're very smart.
The grammar is essentially backwards, so if you read and listen at the same time, the words you hear are seldom what you're reading.

Now if you focus on listening and just glance at the subs just to get a general thought, and you don't think literaly about the dialiect, well, you could learn stuff by acquisition. :)
Regardless what you decide on watching, enjoy it. :P

But also in SSC defense, English subs are often TERRIBLE, so I listen to the Japanese because otherwise I'll hate the movie just because of the bad english voice acting ::).

SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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There are often times where characters will say only one word or two words. You can learn a bit from those scenes and then learn more by using those words in longer sentences to figure out other words. That's what I did/do...

Rodrigo Monteiro
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February 2004
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My estimate is that I learned 120 japanese words from anime alone (I have an incomplete list), and I never took any japanese classes... if it keeps up like that, I'll end up learning the whole language. :)

About Death and Rebirth: if you include End of Evangelion, and the Director's Cuts for episode 21-24, there are no new scenes at all. Rebirth is worthless, it's just half of End of Evangelion. Death is a nice huge recap, if you're into that kind of thing... just make sure that you watch Death True^2.

On a side note, ADV licensed Evangelion Platinum, which is almost the same as Evangelion Renewal, much higher quality video/audio remasters of the original cels. Unfortunately, they don't own the license to the End of Evangelion movie, which is the reason they had to rename "Renewal" into "Platinum."

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Steve Terry
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March 2002
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I liked it but like most anime you don't really know what the hell is going on, it all gets laid out slowly throughout. I know some japanese but yeah listening to it in Japanese helps you to learn how to pronounce it better, like 1 ichi which I think they prounouned it like "each" or "itch" than how I would pronounce it if I had not known. Pen-Pen was coo too.

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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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Nvm, read your post wrong.

Edit: I've found that if you're biligual and know say, spanish or french or something, you can pronounce japanese better. This is because unlike english, all these other languages are phonetic and have similar pronounciations for there letters( which is why it's harder for a american to say a japanese are than for a spanish person to do a japanese r. Spanish and japanese r's are similar.)

Rampage
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December 2002
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SSC: No, japanese 'r' is a sound between our 'r' and 'l' (spanish speaker). However, their vowels are exactly like ours :P.

-R

Adol
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May 2002
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and know say, spanish or french or something, you can pronounce japanese better.

I think it's more along the lines of if you have spent time learning another language before you got too old and your brain got too set in English, then you can still adjust your speech to the point of sounding like a native speaker.

For the record, Roger Wilco sounds somewhat like: Lajah Wiruko.

Oscar Giner
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April 2002
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Adol: no, it's more along the lines of Japanese pronunciation is almost the same as Spanish, so if you can speak Spanish you'll find Japanese pronunciation very easy.

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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Indeed, japanese pronunciation is very similar to spanish. However, the sentence structure is more similar to english. In example, in japanese you put the modifiers before the noun as in english, while in spanish we put the modifiers after the noun (putting it before the noun is possible but, at least down here, hardly used except in poetry).

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光子「あたしただ…奪う側に回ろうと思っただけよ」
Mitsuko's last words, Battle Royale

imaxcs
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November 2003

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... while Ghost in the Shell is just one film

"Ghost in the Shell" is not just one film! There is "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence" which looks awesome. They also made a series out of it and it's also great.

SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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GITS: Stand Alone Complex is out in SunCoast...

Crazy Photon
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July 2002
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What about Full Metal Alchemist? I watched it and for me it was one of the best stuff I have ever seen... and it was in Japanese with Spanish subtitles, so I finally got to see some japanese cartoons in the original language (I think that's best).

As for the language, romanized japanese is pronounced practically the same as spanish, so that's quite a help to learn japanese for spanish-speaking people :) I'm considering learning it in the near future, the language features seem pretty neat, even tough one has to learn how to read and write those letters...

Here is a link with a good site I found about learning japanese...

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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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Yea...the 120 different letters and the 3,000 common kanji.....

Thats the site I've been using for a while to learn japanese heh.

Crazy Photon
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July 2002
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Do you have more sites related to the language?

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Arvidsson
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May 2004
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As for the language, romanized japanese is pronounced practically the same as spanish

Yeah that helps a lot indeed. The Hepburn system (the most popular romaji) uses spanish vowels and english consonants, in the way of pronounciation I mean.

SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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Do you have more sites related to the language?

I've been slacking so I don't know anymore. After learning the hiragana and numbers, seeing the katakana turned me off, heh.

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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ftp://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo (or ftp://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/00INDEX.html for a page with the information about what each of the file has).

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光子「あたしただ…奪う側に回ろうと思っただけよ」
Mitsuko's last words, Battle Royale

Crazy Photon
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July 2002
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Thanks RB, I will try to look at it :)

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Adol
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May 2002
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Indeed, japanese pronunciation is very similar to spanish

My Japanese teacher married a spanish guy. Coincidence? I think not!! :o

Marcello
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January 2002
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