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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Have you consulted with a doctor? If your problems are indeed that bad, perhaps therapy or something would help. |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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BAF said: Have you consulted with a doctor? Closest I've gotten to a "Dr" and regular therepy is a BiPolar clinic, where we got 15 minute appointments with Trainees, which changed every few months. I've been meaning to call "Alberta Mental Health" for quite a while now, but the last time I was there it seemed rather pointless. We'll see. Yeah, its not just social phobia that I have to deal with, I've also been diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and BiPolar Disorder. Fun shit. The fun thing is how they all play off one another. Stress can cause a BiPolar event (mood flip/change), and the other disorders can cause a lot of stress. I don't even have an even playing field to launch an attack from, one day I can be energetic and in a decent mood, the next I could be nothing but a seething ball of angry, and the next after that, I could be depressed, or even "meh" (worse than depressed I find). And when my mood flips severely enough, it tends to reset my brain in some form so I have to re learn and recondition a bunch of necessary habits, like eating properly, general hygiene, etc. So no matter how easy you think something might be, you just don't know, and thus should not make stupid assumptions. -- |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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bamccaig said: It was pretty easy, but my legs aren't very flexible and I can feel pulling in my muscles, which makes me nervous. I'm somebody that used to wake up 3 times a week in the middle of the night with charley horses [en.wikipedia.org] in high school. This sort of thing is what muscles do when they're called on to do what they're not used to doing. Lighten up to maybe 60% of what you're doing now and maybe go up a small increment every couple of weeks. You probably won't notice any "charley horse" feelings after a month, replaced by the pleasant glow of "the pump". After a couple of years the improvement will be amazing. If two years seems like too long a time, consider that if you stop, the two years will pass by anyway, and you'll still be a skinny little guy with cramping legs. OTOH, stuff that happened two years in the past doesn't seem so bad, does it? About being scared of stuff, all I can say about that is to go out and do stuff, whatever you can, sitting at home to avoid specific situations doesn't help at all. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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BAF said: it aught to be less painful to overcome a mental limitation. Learn how to spell ought. People who are self conscious should just suck it up and deal with it. After they get used to doing whatever they were scared of, then they will realize it wasn't so scary after all. I believe most people fit into that category. If one seriously tries (thinking about it doesn't count) and then has some mental breakdown, then he probably does have mental issues. But skip the "woe is me" attitude. Just because you're crazy doesn't mean you have to be unhappy. Personally, I dislike smaller social events because I never fit in. I hate trying to pretend to be interested in other people's boring blah blah blah talk, and I hate trying to pretend to care about other people in general. (There's people I knew at university for several years and had many conversations with, but I never even learned their names despite being told what they were.) But walking amongst a crowd of strangers is nothing because I know they are ignoring me as much as I am ignoring them. I guess this isn't the pet peeve thread, but I hate when cashiers try to talk to me. Scan my item in silence, please. So yes, I'm a loner, and would be branded with some sort of label if I talked to enough head doctors, but I thoroughly enjoy my solitude. |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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This I think would apply to you Matthew: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/03/caring-for-your-introvert/2696/ I also really enjoy solitude. People tire me out. There is a definite difference between a true introvert and someone with social phobia. One is a mental state, the other is an actual disorder. Matthew Leverton said: If one seriously tries (thinking about it doesn't count) and then has some mental breakdown, then he probably does have mental issues. But skip the "woe is me" attitude. Just because you're crazy doesn't mean you have to be unhappy. Indeed. But It'd also be nice if other people could skip the "Suck it up!" and "Its nothing!" attitude. -- |
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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Matthew Leverton said: I dislike smaller social events because I never fit in. You may find the more you drink, the more sociable you get and the topics become more palatable Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Neil Walker said: You may find the more you drink, the more sociable you get and the topics become more palatable I find the more people drink the bigger of a Fool they become. Some people say "who cares?".. I do -- |
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: I find the more people drink the bigger of a Fool they become. Only to those not yet drunk. You need to drink more and go with the flow. Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Neil Walker said: Only to those not yet drunk. You need to drink more and go with the flow. The drunks are the largest Fools -- |
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Derezo
Member #1,666
April 2001
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Only at Allegro.cc can a thread about exercise equipment quickly change into a thread about social phobias and mental health. I'm quite sure I'd be diagnosed with being SAD, having Social Anxiety Disorder. When I'm in public doing something like bagging my groceries, I feel like I'm outside of my body looking in and observing my actions rather than making them. It use to cause mild panic attacks at times, I'd get beat red and sweaty, almost paralyzed by anxiety. I was avoiding social situations down to even the most basic interactions like calling people or answering the door. Therapy is the answer, even for other DSM IV disorders. Therapy consists of "sucking it up", but in baby steps if need be. "He who controls the stuffing controls the Universe" |
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Now imagine having to do that every single time you need to make a phone call, or even think about going places with people? Every time. Not just once in a while, but every single day, your entire life?
Well we're not talking about a garden variety anxiety then, are we? -- |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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23yrold3yrold said: Well we're not talking about a garden variety anxiety then, are we? No, and we never were. Least I'm pretty sure bamccaig wasn't. Maybe people making stupid assumptions were. But thats about it. Quote: But that's still something that can be dealt with (best with hypnotherapy) so w/e. Yuh. I can see how seriously you take mental health. Just like Baf I see. -- |
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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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bamccaig said: I don't like people If I were you, I would not worry about that too much as I have a feeling that notion might be mutual with many of the individuals who have to interact with you. That being said, I don't believe that it is actually true that you don't like people, because if you seriously did not like anyone else, you would certainly not keep posting long walls of attention, sympathy and argumentative-discussion seeking texts on this forum. So obviously, you do in fact enjoy interacting with other people very much even if just in written conversations. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Drunk people commonly make fools of themselves by putting on airs when their Dutch Courage tells them they're much more charming when drunk. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007
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Doesn't matter if you're drunk and making a fool of yourself, as long as other people are just (or more) drunk as you. And anyway, even if not, why care? The people that know you wont think you are a fool and the people that don't know you... Well, does it really matter what strangers think Let me answer that last one for you. No.
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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And yet people get fired from jobs and partners split up with them for doing foolish stuff when drunk. Go figure. -- |
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Trezker
Member #1,739
December 2001
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: No, and we never were. Least I'm pretty sure bamccaig wasn't. Maybe people making stupid assumptions were. But thats about it. /double checks bam's posts No, his reactions are pretty normal. I can even relate; I'm not that comfortable in a gym either (though I still go). So who's assuming here? Quote: I can see how seriously you take mental health. Seriously enough that I study it, yes. -- |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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23yrold3yrold said: Seriously enough that I study it, yes. Then you must not take your studies very seriously. so w/e. Quote: No, his reactions are pretty normal. Its the same excuses I gave people before I really knew how serious my problems were. And I'm not sure you've noticed, but bamccaig is doing some pretty heavy self medicating. Other hints lead me to believe its quite a bit more serious than he lets on. Sure I'm assuming, but I actually have some hands on experience with this sort of thing. -- |
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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@Trezker: Pretty much...
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Trezker
Member #1,739
December 2001
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One problem with bullshit is that it sometimes contains nuggets of information that you need. And it's impossible to get an extrovert to give you information in pure form. If you ask them to just repeat the important stuff, they think you want them to explain more thoroughly meaning wrap even more bullshit around all that bullshit they told you before... Efficiency doesn't exist in an extroverts world of concepts, I really don't understand how they ever get anything done. |
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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(Sorry for editing... I have a hard time explaining this sort of thing in a satisfactory way...) Trezker said: Efficiency doesn't exist in an extroverts world of concepts, I really don't understand how they ever get anything done. Wikipedia holds the key. Quote: Politics, teaching, sales, managing and brokering are fields that favor extroversion.
In other words, bullshit fields. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
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Trezker
Member #1,739
December 2001
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Bullshit people also tend to rise to the top and become the boss. I see managing in your list. Why do we let them control us? We should fire them! I suppose that's because extroverts are in majority. |
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Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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You're thinking of sociopaths, not extroverts per se.
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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007
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I agree with Trezker. Bullshit people tend to make a lot of money (personal experience talking). My goal in life is to be the best bullshitter I can be. (I'm already practicing) In capitalist America bank robs you. |
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