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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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verthex said: Yes, but murderers are usually also racist. Are you basing that statement on any factual information, or is it just a personal hunch? Shravan said: What about the attacks going on,on Indians(and maybe students of other nationality too) in Australia.What would you call that? Completely irrelevant to the matter at hand.
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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LennyLen said: Are you basing that statement on any factual information, or is it just a personal hunch?
Mmmm...
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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006
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We have a saying here: mock the man, not the man's name (or hat). I'd also like to point out that there are white nations with names you probably couldn't pronounce (and you'd probably be helpless with anything Russian). verthex said: Yes, but murderers are usually also racist. 99% of the time it is someone from the family / neighbourhood. Of course, why couldn't a person hate their own race... |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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verthex said: however the largest genocide of the 20th century goes to you know who in the name of you know what, and that would make any statistic bump in my favor. You know who was only one person. One person is statistically insignificant. Also, most of the Jews killed in the holocaust were only jewish by religion, not race, so it was a matter of religious persecution, not racial.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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There are plenty of Indians at my university, and while I cannot pronounce any of their names, I would never call them silly. Self-deprecating humor goes over much better. It's on me to know how to pronounce their names, not on them to change their names. Sounds like you should be fired and given six months of jail time for hate crimes. |
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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006
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I think we can agree that genocides tend to be race- / ethnicity-based. |
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Timorg
Member #2,028
March 2002
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Shravan said: @Timorg:What about the attacks going on,on Indians(and maybe students of other nationality too) in Australia.What would you call that? You mean the big news item of the Indian that was attacked by racists. You know they caught the people responsible, one of them was of Indian decent. Over the incident, Indian students literally picketed train stations, and attacked innocent people just trying to use the public transport system. So just leave that one alone, you have been misinformed by your media. (Not that media is much better anywhere else in the world.) And you are making the issue worse, with general statements like "(and maybe students of other nationality too)". Its attitudes like this that are inflaming the issue. Can't the situation just be looked at as "Someone was riding the train, and they were attacked", there was no suggestion that it was race related. Not until the Indian community jumped up and down and insisted it was. The police were out there busting their balls to catch the people, they were caught, and they will be punished by the court system. (Personally I hope they get the full 25 years, but I digress.) Melbourne is a funny place, very multicultural, every 2nd person you speak to will be of a different heritage. I have managed to be equal parts English, Prussian, Irish, and Italian. If you looked at the nationality of every person that attacked another person, you would be there all day arguing semantics. Someone was attacked, the person who did the attacking should be caught and punished. Just because the victim was a member of a minority, doesn't mean it was racially motivated. Shravan said: Timorg felt that the name was silly because 1st name had seven letters and surname 15 letter... At the time I chose my words poorly, the meaning of the words were "I am silly as I have no chance of pronouncing this correctly." The words that came out of my mouth were insensitive, but I no way meant to imply that the name was silly, even if that is how it sounded. They didn't go to the head of school and say that I said an Indian name was silly. They went and said that I claimed that "all Indian names are stupid." Why did they say that? Was it a misunderstanding, and they felt that is what I meant? Or is it that they were out to push a cause? I have no way of knowing, they didn't come to me and ask what I meant. Shravan said: Finally i would call this incident as a consequence of communication gap between the sir and his students. You hit the nail on the head there. I hope that was the cause, because I will quite happily apologise and explain myself. If they were purposely just inflaming the situation, it would be awful if that reflected badly on Indian students who are there to learn, and enjoy what university and Melbourne has to offer. This was not a race issue until some students decided it was. Apologies to you Shravan, I didn't mean to single you out of the conversation, but you directly asked me a question. Directly implied what I felt, which I was quite clear that it wasn't that. I really do hope that you are correct, that it was a miscommunication. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ |
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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LennyLen said: Also, most of the Jews killed in the holocaust were only jewish by religion, not race, so it was a matter of religious persecution, not racial.
oops...
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Quote: More complaints that I am racist.. All you haters need to be punished and deported! No more hating allowed in this country, you fludging flipper! |
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gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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verthex said: The Spanish inquisition only last 1100 years
What. Tom Lehrer said: I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings - and I HATE people like that!
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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gnolam said: What.
maybe...
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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gnolam said: I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings - and I HATE people like that! Its an old joke My favorite version goes something like: Quote: I hate people who are intolerant of other people's culture, and the Dutch.
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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You should start a White Men's Club and complain of racism when it gets rejected. Take it to the media and get the town up in arms! You could also apply to Hooters and sue them when they wont hire you.[1] References
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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You're all racists! I don't think any of you ever get my name right! In RL most people get my name wrong also (I don't think it should be very difficult for "UK-descending" Canadians or Americans[1] to pronounce, but meh...). It doesn't bother me really, except for having to spell it all the time (though they still pronounce it wrong with it written right in front of them). Names are silly. You usually have to hear foreign names (coming from North America, where names come from all over, I guess that's almost all of them I agree it was perhaps insensitive to call the name silly to the class, but I wouldn't say it's racist. I could see how someone might get the impression that you were racist, especially if they're regularly discriminated against for their race (or if they themselves are racist). Apologizing almost sounds like an admission of guilt to me though. I would probably ask the Dean (or my boss) if an apology is in order before going ahead and doing it. You might make matters worse. /2¢ References
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Dustin Dettmer said: You should start a White Men's Club and complain of racism when it gets rejected. Take it to the media and get the town up in arms! You could also apply to Hooters and sue them when they wont hire you.[1] Sorta like Honolulu!
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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School is full of politics. If you want sanity in your personal relations don't work there. |
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Dustin Dettmer said: School is full of politics. If you want sanity in your personal relations don't work there. Yup...
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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006
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verthex said: But I guess the genocide's of Europe weren't about race, they were mostly good Christians persecuting Hindus, gypsies, Arabs, gays, Jews. What about Stalin's genocide? Good communists persecuting everyone, regardless of race, gender, etc? Quote: But they are a majority in being NON-WHITE! The Spanish inquisition only last 1100 years; but no, that was religious with only a few white people responsible for the majority of non-Christians being tortured. I may be mistaken, but I doubt it was targeted against non-Christians. It seems to have been about a few Christians in power (Roman Catholic Church) against other Christians who sort of didn't like their power (Cathars, Reformists - naturally they were labelled as "heretics"). |
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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anonymous said: I may be mistaken, but I doubt it was targeted against non-Christians. It seems to have been about a few Christians in power (Roman Catholic Church) against other Christians who sort of didn't like their power
Nope... But take that with a grain of salt because historians have recently turned revisionist in their own best interest or someones church.
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gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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Allegro.cc: where every troll is fed. Even post Godwin. But because it's fun to argue: References
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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gnolam said: verthex, just face the fact that you don't know your history already
I'm sure you don't know much either ...
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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007
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Taking courses and writing essays does not make you wiser about the topic. I mean, I got an A once in physics, didn't make me an Evert though. Still don't know shit about physics. In capitalist America bank robs you. |
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Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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Vanneto said: Taking courses and writing essays does not make you wiser about the topic. I mean, I got an A once in physics, didn't make me an Evert though. Still don't know shit about physics.
You are doing it wrong.
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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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This topic, thread, whatever you wanna call it, Vanneto, is gone off the track from the first post and it's a free for all argument that doesn't make sense. I'm sorry if you though that this was a rational argument in the first place. Obviously you know nothing about politics.
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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I know there's no such thing as a polite tic. |
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