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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Thomas Harte said: I don't understand what you mean — it took them five iterations to add the things, but what's missing? Well in kde they are fully integrated into the WM and task bar, you can assign certain windows, or applications to a desktop, so they always go there. You can also filter the items in the task bar to only show whats on the current desktop (and even on the current screen/monitor). The pager (desktop switcher widget/plasmoid) also shows small previews of the desktop if you want. Then theres the nice transition effects when switching desktops in KDE4. Having the taskbar/dock list everything thats open ALL the time is utterly useless for me. The reason you want virtual desktops is to sort the clutter, how does it help if it isn't actually sorting the clutter in the taskbar/dock? I also hate how Apple apps all hide in the dock, and don't close, unless you hit the exit menu item. Even things like the editor. Thats totally stupid. -- |
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Uhm, OS X does all of that, except the whole taskbar filtering crap. I happen to like the dock. And it doesnt take long to get used to hitting command+Q to close a program. Harry Carey said: Does Windows 7 have a proper console? That's what makes me cry every time I try to use svn from cmd.exe... What's so unproper about cmd? And why do you use svn from command line, instead of something like tortoise svn. As far as Win7, it has some issues, but nothing show stopping. In fact, I see no differences between Win7 and Vista, except for a few UI changes (I think they are for the better though). Also a few annoying issues, but nothing too bad. |
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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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Memory usage and startup time are the biggest differences I've seen. Running Vista on 512MB of RAM is painful, with Windows 7 it runs just fine with that. And Vista takes a lot longer to boot for me than Windows 7. Oh, and how is it any different using svn from the command line in Windows than Linux? I agree that gnome-terminal or konsole are better than cmd.exe, but svn is pretty basic command line wise.
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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BAF said: What's so unproper about cmd? Vista's was as bad as XP, it's still DOS compatible (i.e. too stupid to redirect stderr, blah blah blah) and the history is horrible. That's a major reason to love Linux right there. (well, if you're not addicted to a point'n'grunt interface) They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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You can redirect stderr just fine in the windows console.
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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You can? How? I'm still using the djgpp redir (renamed to redirect) thing in Vista. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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command 2> out.txt Same as Linux :p
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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I'll try it next time I boot it. I was on it a long time yesterday, trying to decipher the horribly undocumented datetimepick stuff for C yesterday, but I finally got it going... They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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And the explorer? Am I to assume it's still the piece of shit, completely unusable one? -- |
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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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No idea. I have no problems with Vista's or Windows 7 explorer. Couldn't even tell you the difference.
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gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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If it can't stay one size, remember what columns you want to display, remember the width of those columns, or, in fact, remember any goddamn thing for more than three sessions or so, it's the Vista one. -- |
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Win 7 explorer seems smarter - it can remember desktop icon positions when a program hijacks your resolution. Arthur Kalliokoski said: Vista's was as bad as XP, it's still DOS compatible (i.e. too stupid to redirect stderr, blah blah blah) and the history is horrible. That's a major reason to love Linux right there. (well, if you're not addicted to a point'n'grunt interface) The history is great, better than bash's. You just have to know how it works. And I remember personally explaining it a couple times in response to your posts (and even reading ML explaining it too) so I'm not going to take the time to do so. |
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StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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The 80 character width limit is what kills me. I don't like my lines wrapping. I can stretch out an xterm window wide enough so that I see everything and can read and understand what just happened. cmd.exe? Not so much. Also the tab completion sucks. Tab-tab should list all the files in the given path, it makes life significantly easier. __________________________________________________ |
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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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Click the icon in the window title, go to properties, adjust size.
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StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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Oh, wow. That's a step in the right direction. Now it just needs to work where I can resize the window and it automatically changes the width in the same way it changes the height. __________________________________________________ |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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Uh, they do accept feedback. That IS the whole point of the release candidate. -- |
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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007
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AFAIK, they do not accept feedback in Windows 7 RC1. The system automatically sends "telemetry" data to MS for analysis to see if previous bugs from the BETA have been removed. So it says on the FAQ! In capitalist America bank robs you. |
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Goalie Ca
Member #2,579
July 2002
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Don Freeman said: you never know...you could end up working for the big M. The two worst coders i know.. one ended up at mathworks and one ended up at microsoft. It all makes sense now. ------------- |
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StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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Goalie Ca said: The two worst coders i know.. one ended up at mathworks I always did wonder why the latest version of Matlab takes five minutes to start.... __________________________________________________ |
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Schyfis
Member #9,752
May 2008
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Thomas Harte said: Operating Systems have yet to provoke a physical response in me. I *totally* thought the wrong thing when I read that sentence. Anyway, my dad is going to do a clean install of the 64-bit edition and I'll let you all know how things turn out and how it works. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Arthur Kalliokoski said: This is a common thread in Windows, if you have significant network activity for no apparent reason That has nothing what so ever to do with Vista Explorer's amnesia. -- |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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It fits in with the Windows attitude of "I am a computer, you are a moron." They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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jhuuskon
Member #302
April 2000
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For me the Vista explorer works. I like having custom view settings for each directory and I haven't found it to ever forget given settings.[1] I just installed 7 30 minutes ago. I'll see how it goes. edit: Well, it's not at least perceivably slower than 2008 32bit, that's for sure. I don't see any significant increase in ASIO underruns or CPU usage in FL using the same project files. References
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Timorg
Member #2,028
March 2002
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Windows Explorer at least runs in a predictable (yet stupid) way. Nautilus (gnome) seems strange and abstract sometimes, trying to be clever, makes a wrong assumption, and causing problems, (and is like explorer in the way that it eats the desktop.) I have never used Konqueror (kde) for file browsing, so I can't comment, but it can't be worse than gnomes attempt. Edit: I have only used the xp and vista explorer, I can't comment on version 7, and my brother isn't home to ask his thoughts. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ |
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