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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: So, Chrome is actually less secure than other public browsers pushed by large corporations from the same open source roots, and Google are taking more than two months to incorporate security fixes even before the thing is out in the public arena. I'm sure they have their reasons... To be honest, the whole idea of crashable tabs is laughable. Just make sure scripts and plugins don't crash the browser. It can't be that hard when you're a global mega corp -- |
axilmar
Member #1,204
April 2001
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Why do we need another browser? what is it with existing browsers that this new browser does have over them? |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Quote: Why do we need another browser? I don't think we do, and I don't think I like Chrome (although I'm much more positive about it now that Google don't claim to own anything you type into it), but surely we can at least say that one more sizeable company trying to pull users away from Internet Explorer is good for open standards and good for the web, at least for now? [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: surely we can at least say that one more sizeable company trying to pull users away from Internet Explorer is good for open standards and good for the web, at least for now? If google can manage to steal away a bunch of enterprise clients, that would be nice. Otherwise its not likely to really change the IE majority. People use IE because its the default. And people don't like change. -- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Quote: Why do we need another browser? Did you read the thread yet? The biggest improvement is the V8 JavaScript engine, which is much faster than the others. I tested it out with some very expensive JS code I've written, and it is significantly better. V8 is open source and the other browsers can learn from it. But does this mean we need a new browser? Of course not. Chrome exists because Google wants a browser for their own financial reasons. Why pay the Mozilla people money (for search queries) when you can put together a competent browser of your own? |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Apparently the New Firefox JavaScript engine is faster than Chrome's V8. I'm not sure if that claim is truly telling of the reality or not though. I haven't heard of FireFox's new engine compiling down to machine code so I'm not sure how it could be faster overall. ** EDIT ** Server appears to be down... A colleague gave me that link this morning so it was probably dug. Give it time. ** EDIT ** Or maybe FireFox's new engine does compile the JavaScript down to machine code: Firefox to get massive JavaScript performance boost. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I don't trust third party benchmarks. I've seen people claim that FF3's JS is on par with V8, which is ridiculous. |
ReyBrujo
Moderator
January 2001
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Yeah, let's trust what Google tells us (Edited: By the way, Google will fix the EULA. Copy paste is baaaaaaaaaaaaad!) -- |
ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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I don't know if this competition is a good thing... It would appear Google has been looking a bit closer at its bottom line. Google might just decide that paying for Mozilla isn't quite so smart now that they're direct competitors. If Mozilla doesn't get paid by Google they'll be in a tough spot. Maybe they'd sign a contract with Yahoo or even Microsoft search. Or maybe they wont... its hard to say what those Mozilla guys would do. But maybe that reason alone will prevent Google from dropping them. Its all so hard to tell. To add worries, Google has been straying from its "Do no evil" motto. Things like that tend to become more and more forgotten when companies go public. Especially after the stock has shown a peak. Also we can't forget it was the founders who said "don't be evil" and now they only represent a combined 3% of the company. |
Jeff Bernard
Member #6,698
December 2005
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Does anyone know how well Chrome (or Firefox for that matter) obeys rewrite rules in the .htaccess? I've got the following rule: -- |
Jonatan Hedborg
Member #4,886
July 2004
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I've always assumed that .htaccess was a server-side thing. Maybe the problem lies elsewhere?
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Kibiz0r
Member #6,203
September 2005
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.htaccess is not accessible to browsers, it is interpreted by the server itself. (Edit: Damn, beaten.) Google Co-founder: No Mac Chrome an Embarassment Bit of a sensational headline... Quote: In an interview with BoomTown's Kara Swisher, Mr. Brin asked if she would try out Google Chrome, to which she said "no," because there isn't a Mac version available. Mr. Brin replied ""I know, I know, it's embarrassing."
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Jeff Bernard
Member #6,698
December 2005
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Hmmm, I wonder what sort of quarks would cause the RewriteRule to only sometimes work then... -- |
Karadoc ~~
Member #2,749
September 2002
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I was somewhat swayed by the Google propaganda in their cartoon. I thought what they were trying to do sounded pretty good. But to be honest, that ":%" crash thing has made me doubt the usefulness of their multi-process mumbo-jumbo, and by extension it makes me doubt their other claims as well. Clearly it is still possible for bugs browser to crash the whole thing, including all tabs. Maybe it is more robust than a single process browser - but maybe not. Chrome could be good in the future, but I wouldn't use it now. (I guess it's called a beta version for a reason... but then again gmail is also still in beta and I rely on gmail quite heavily.) Oh, by the way. I found this link pretty interesting. ----------- |
Mark Oates
Member #1,146
March 2001
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Quote: Hmmm, I wonder what sort of quarks would cause the RewriteRule to only sometimes work then...
you might have to clear out your cookies and casche. I had the same problem but called tech support and they had me type some shit at the command line. Or you could clear everything and reset your computer. I can't remember exactly what the process was, sorry -- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Re: rewrite. It depends what headers the server is sending. Re: :%. The address bar code is probably in the main process, causing the complete crash. |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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You have to send a filename header so the browser knows what to name it. Anyhow, I don't really like it. The mouse wheel is WAY too sensitive, I can scroll normally in other apps, then go to scroll in Chrome and it goes at mach 3. Oh, and in the epic failure department, I was denied access to some amazon article page thingy "because I'm running too old of a version of Safari to support their site." Of course, that's Amazon being worse than failure, not so much Chrome. |
Kibiz0r
Member #6,203
September 2005
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Quote: Hmmm, I wonder what sort of quarks would cause the RewriteRule to only sometimes work then... Strange quarks? --- |
axilmar
Member #1,204
April 2001
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I think that Google Chrome is there in order to enhance the Cloud computing experience. Google is seriously thinking in making the browser 'the desktop', and one way to do that is to ensure the browser can't crash from a bad script; that's why they have made each tab a separate process. |
Matt Smith
Member #783
November 2000
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Quote: that's why they have made each tab a separate process. Hooray. 100% usage on all cores. I'm just being pessimistic. Firefox was one reason I just upgraded to dual core (shader/cuda capability and java were the others) |
Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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Any thoughts on the "GoogleUpdate" process that continues to start and run when you uninstall Chrome (sorry if I missed something already said)? Is it just an oversight by Google, some tracking program, some other type of spyware, or something else?
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MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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I already had GoogleUpdate installed because of Google Earth. It seems if the Google program you're running is big enough, it will use Google Earth in a Steam kind of way. Google Talk is the only one I know of to not use Google Update. But it could be my copy of Google Talk is too old to bother installing Google Update behind my back. --- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I'm pretty sure the project teams at google just do a lot of copy and paste. -- |
gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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Quote: I already had GoogleUpdate installed because of Google Earth. It seems if the Google program you're running is big enough, it will use Google Earth in a Steam kind of way. Google Talk is the only one I know of to not use Google Update. But it could be my copy of Google Talk is too old to bother installing Google Update behind my back. Huh? My version of Google Earth didn't come with Google Update... -- |
MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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You have an older version. I did an update to try out the flight simulator thing they added, and in came Google Update. What version do you have? I have 4.3 (and there's an update for it...) Eh? Google Updater shows talk and Earth, but not Chrome? --- |
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