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bamccaig
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July 2006
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It appears to fail both Acid2 and Acid3 tests. I'm not sure if that should surprise anyone though.

MiquelFire said:

A bit scary that you can see the memory sizes of your other browsers within Chrome...

I don't see why that should be scary... It makes sense that you can poll the operating system for that information. :-/ Or even make use of existing tools and pull the text results from their output. It's not like Chrome is gaining unwarranted access to other browsers' memory space.

Mokkan
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February 2004
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I don't like that it doesn't use the native look for Windows. It's just a "skin" type thing that looks like Vista. It doesn't really fit in XP... nitpicky, but I'm kind of OCD like that.

I haven't seen any issues with the rendering, but as I understand it, WebKit is good stuff.

It doesn't seem very new and exciting to me... just more of the same with a weird-ass interface.

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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It appears to fail both Acid2 and Acid3 tests. I'm not sure if that should surprise anyone though.

It surprises me, as Acid2 has worked in Safari for ages. I'd find out what score it gets on Acid3 for comparison, but the site isn't responding.

Jonatan Hedborg
Member #4,886
July 2004
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I gotta say, I kinda like it. I will keep an eye on the further development.

bamccaig
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July 2006
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Thomas Harte said:

It surprises me, as Acid2 has worked in Safari for ages.

I haven't used Safari (and hate Apple for pushing it in their updater) so I wasn't sure whether or not Safari was passing or not... :-/ Chrome is close to passing, I guess, but the eyes are somehow wrong. :-X

Thomas Harte said:

I'd find out what score it gets on Acid3 for comparison, but the site isn't responding.

Yeah, I had trouble getting it to respond as well. IIRC, it scored around 74-76/100.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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It passes Acid 2. You may need to wait for it to load or refresh.

I like the look a lot on Vista. If it doesn't fit with XP, then that's not good. I hate when applications are like that. I like that there is no menu bar or status bar—I don't use them on a web browser. It's very similar to how I have Firefox configured.

But without extensions, it just won't compare to FF. I'd rather have a slightly slower web browser that I have more control over.

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I gotta say, I kinda like it. I will keep an eye on the further development.

That is assuming they continue to develop it. I wouldn't expect much more than keeping the renderer up to date.

Jonatan Hedborg
Member #4,886
July 2004
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Can you get rid of the menu bar in Firefox?

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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With extensions, yes. I don't though (unless on a mini-laptop) because I put the address bar on the same line as the menu bar and get rid of all of the buttons.

CGamesPlay
Member #2,559
July 2002
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Just saw your signature, CGP, did you go to PAX?

Yeah, if you start a thread or PM me I'll even share pics (I didn't take many or any good ones though).

I've just downloaded the V8 engine, because that's the only thing I care about. It's packaged much more sanely than SpiderMonkey, but it looks like it does some crazy black magic stack tracing, and you can't use it with new, you have to use stack allocation.

To clarify, V8 was done by the Denmark division of Google; the comic clarifies that.

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Jonatan Hedborg
Member #4,886
July 2004
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Hmm. that's not too shabby actually.

BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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I don't like the scrolling, it seems to be more sensitive than other apps to the scroll wheel. Otherwise its okay, nothing spectacular. I think the URL bar is kinda bizarre with the highlighting.

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It appears to fail both Acid2 and Acid3 tests. I'm not sure if that should surprise anyone though.

It doesn't surprise me, and I don't give a shit about ACID anyway. It is useless as far as I'm concerned.

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I don't like that it doesn't use the native look for Windows. It's just a "skin" type thing that looks like Vista. It doesn't really fit in XP... nitpicky, but I'm kind of OCD like that.

It doesn't really fit in Vista either... it's just kind of like Opera or a bad Firefox skin.

MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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I added some benchmark results to my last post, in case someone missed it.

Somehow I found an IP listing for SunSpider Javascript Benchmark (the domain is not working for me for some reason) and while I wait on IE7 to run it's tests, I'll post the results I got for the other four:

Firefox (3.0.1): 4449.8ms +/- 1.0% link
Chrome (0.2.149.27): 2190.8ms +/- 2.2% link
Safari (3.1.2): 5325.4ms +/- 0.4% link
Opera (9.52): 6111.4ms +/- 1.2% link
IE7 (XP SP3): Too slow, and I started too late in the day. I thought 45 minutes would be enough time to run the damn tests...

[edit] Added version numbers for historical reasons.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Chrome is missing the smooth scaling of the entire website that Firefox 3 has. There are many sites (e.g., Facebook) that I cannot browse at the regular size. Just increasing the font size doesn't work very well.

Mark Oates
Member #1,146
March 2001
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It sure feels light. I thought I'd have to install Flash player, did they do that automatically?

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smooth scaling of the entire website that Firefox 3 has

I've come to really appreciate that feature.

edit: Oh, crap! there's no middle mouse click scroll. Fuck this I'm going back to Firefox.

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ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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No mouse wheel support? Ugh! I am guessing it uses Firefox's Flash player.

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MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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There's mouse wheel support. It's the click middle button and move the mouse that's not support.

BTW, it seems the flash installer prefers Opera over Firefox on my computer for some reason... I wish I knew why that was.

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Jeff Bernard
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December 2005
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I haven't used Safari (and hate Apple for pushing it in their updater) so I wasn't sure whether or not Safari was passing or not

List of passing browsers..

Chrome crashed for me when I tried closing a tab that had a running video. And shows up as Safari 525.13 according to A.cc.

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CGamesPlay
Member #2,559
July 2002
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That's too funny. They spend all that time talking about how it can't crash, then it doesn't work. I wonder if, when the main controller process crashes, if it leaves the rest of the processes running. That would be a bitch of a memory leak for the average user.

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Mark Oates
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March 2001
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They spend all that time talking about how it can't crash, then it doesn't work.

yea, seriously.

"Our program needs to not crash"
"ok, lets just... do that"

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FMC
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March 2004
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Chrome seems to be quite geek oriented. :P
A couple quotes from the program:
"Statistics for Nerds"
"Incognito mode protects you from blah blah, but you still have to worry about blah, blah, secret service agents and people behind you"

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Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Chrome seems to be quite geek oriented.

They launched it with a cartoon; it's American geek oriented. As far as I'm aware, nowhere else in the world do adults buy comic strips.

Edgar Reynaldo
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Mokkan
Member #4,355
February 2004
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EDIT: Removed.

Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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EDIT: top section removed

EDIT: to avoid unneccesary offence, I mean to make no inference about America from the correlation between living in it and potentially being a part of the subgroup of "adults willing to buy comics". If anything, take it as a complement that America has such a diverse range of subcultures. My point is that I don't think Google are aiming anywhere near the mainstream right now. I'll wager they're hoping to get a core of nerd early adopters to push the browser, once more stable, to the various people for whom they end up doing free computer maintenance. But they've made a cultural misstep by using a form of presentation that even nerds tend to leave behind in most international jurisdictions; it looks even worse when they're namechecking other countries apprently without even really being sure where they are other than "somewhere in Europe, beyond France".

ixilom
Member #7,167
April 2006
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Haven't had the time to try the browser, and I doubt I will be using it anyways.
The reason is no adblock. Sure it is still a beta, but why would Google add something they don't like about Firefox? Adblock screws their "we-track-everything-you-do" plans :P

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