Right, some sleep later (even though I should be at work and will go there the moment I've posted this):

Thanks a lot. I don't think any of this is really true any more - though I can always improve a bit more, and I'm sure I will.

I wouldn't say I was offended; I was just upset that you still expected the worst from me.

As far as being sensitive, today/yesterday is an exception. A while ago a girl rejected me (I think mainly on the grounds of distance). There was some awkwardness afterwards, but it went away and we managed to stay friends, and there wasn't any overanalysis I'll have you know! She's now told me she thinks she's found someone, and evidently I still liked her judging by the effect it had - and I was ill with a cold and full of chocolate which I'm sure makes me moody, and I was tired, so that all made it worse. How often do you see me post that many swear words in one paragraph? Did that look like me? Maybe it's you who underanalyse situations

My post above - the one full of swear words - is good. It shows that I'm learning not to try too hard any more. What I really need to work on is my exposure to people outside and beyond the direct work environment (where I like to pretend "the meeting room opposite the lady's toilets" was a deliberate gag rather than someone being illiterate). I'm making some progress there

By the way, the above girl is planning on visiting me after summer, so I can't be that annoying these days, can I? So you can unblock me on MSN if you want

Recently? Apart from today? I don't remember anything. I think withholding information just because it might offend me counts as bad air, but that's all resolved now

Sorry for hijacking your thread a bit, miran

Fond of these threads as I am, it kind of feels bad to see how much anxiety people have over these things, especially when nasty stuff happens to guys who seem to be such good people.

... Really? Well, say someone thinks that's what they think. Are they in reality thinking something else entirely but subconsciously find it so uncomfortable they would like to think they think the thoughts you mentioned instead? This is getting difficult.

[This is where I'd offer a collective apology to miran but he seems to like the tangential offshoots these threads tend towards at least as much as the average allegroid. ]

[Editation] Wording.

The obvious solution is to be a bad person.

Plus, only the good die young.

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Give her time to cool down.

what is with you guys and having girls as friends.

what ever you do don't call her. when she calls pretend like nothing happen and you for got about the pegnet stuff.

Yes! I knew this myself without help this time! You are a good teacher.

Miran, invite her boyfriend over and begin getting him drunk. Once he is drunk start questioning him about what really the night of March 31st 2007. Secretly tape his response and give it to the girl as proof.

Then she will be sure either way of what happened. Hopefully she will thank you for clearing things up, and not hate you for meddling in her personal affairs. (Or non affairs as the case may be ).

Oh, and if you are smart you might not want to tell her the results after all. Just keep them to yourself. In fact... if you are really smart you probably wouldn't want to get the guy drunk and start questioning him, it would be much better to go bowling or playing poker or something.

if it is swet odor you can use limes there as well. if it is uncontrolled gases odor. in my home country they has a tea that you can drink that cleans you inside out by making you use the bath room. i guess if you use a laxative it will do the same thing.(note make sure you use it at home in the night time.)

Namek

Don't worry about it too much. You know what they say: There's plenty of fishermen in the sea!

If I remember correctly he's from Italy. Which also says much about his opinions and advices on women...

Stereotyping? Wasn't that politically incorrect now?

On the topic of relationships, I just spent an hour talking to a friend who was rejected by the girl he likes.

Now if I may, here comes a sleepless rant:

I've noticed a pattern with this guy and other friends of his who have the same problem: they think their lives are like an anime or something. AFAIK, anime often features males who are shy, socially inept, emo, aloof, rude and/or rather girly. In those fantasy worlds, such males attract the 99.9% of the women; every girl is secretly in love with them, but don't want them to realize it and therefore treat them like dirt.

Back in the real world, my friend believes that girls will notice all his wonderful traits by just sitting silently in a corner, and convince himself that if a girl turns to see him is because she's madly in love with him. Basically he just does nothing and hopes for the best. When he finally gathered enough self-confidence to talk to this girl, he went and basically said: "I know you like me, I like you too, let's make up". Of course the girl was frightened! He hadn't even talked to her more than five times before today, hence the rejection.

He asked me why had it happened to him, and I didn't have an appropiate answer. Then I crafted this theory, which could be right or not. I'm not claiming that all anime fans are similarly affected, it's just a pattern I've noticed. But it could be caused by an entirely different reason, and I'm willing to accept that I may be wrong.

End rant.

Ha! This is rich... care to explain?