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Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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From that short story I'd say the guy was maliciously telling the woman about the computer system to show how she wasn't needed anymore anyway.. Am I the only one who saw it that way? |
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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Probably. You know what they say about people who see the worst in every situation Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
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Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest. |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: You know what they say about people who see the worst in every situation That's particularly funny considering Johan's following post.
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Andrei Ellman
Member #3,434
April 2003
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Only on Allegro.cc can a discussion about underwear mutate into a discussion about Asperger's Syndrome. [takes tests] 1st test: 13 In my case, I was brought up in a foreign country. Me and my family are English, but we lived in the Netherlands, and everyone around us spoke Dutch. Until I was 6, I was sent to various Dutch nurseries/schools. It is said that many of the social skills are learned in the Kindergarten sandpit. However, if you speak a different language to everyone else, this becomes much harder as you cannot share worldviews with your peers, so I made up my own worldview. I did manage to become bilingual by the time my parents had the sense to move me to an English school. I'm good at figuring things out, so with reduced personal interaction, my intellectual-level had time to become more developped. I did pick up the missed social-skills over the years, but have (initially) relied heavily on my intellectual level when interacting with others. LennyLen said: Take any randomly distributed seemingly patternless system such as a patch of grass or leaves on a tree. They're filled with patterns of geometirc shapes, that most people are completely incapable of picking out. I can watch trees in the wind for ages, just watching all the patterns rearrange themselves (for anyon who's hallucinated on acid or cactus, the effect is very similar). Is this an effect of AS, or is this something else unrelated. Do you see these patterns or just immagine them? I think that as well as taking hallucionogens, it is possible to get to this state of mind purely by meditation. I once met a girl who claimed she had done such a thing (but then again, she also claimed she could dry a wet towel with nothing but her naked body in temperatures of -25c). I've tried Yoga on several occasions. While I find it deeply physically relaxing, I've never managed to alter my mental state of mind. You're meant to clear your mind. There's just too much going on in my mind at once, and clearing it is impossible. The best I've managed to do in that respect is to think about clearing my mind. I've never taken any hallucinogens (and have no intention of doing so), but one thing I do like to do is to read someone's account of an experience with magic-mushrooms/LSD/etc. and try to reverse-engineer the experience - that is, I try and immagine what it's like and what's going on inside the head (it helps if you are truly aware that different people percieve the world differently and you have experience at knowing just how other people's thought-processes are organised and imagining how things go on inside their heads). Also, on my Compter-science course, I learned a bit about Neural Networks, which are similar to how the brain works, and suspect that taking LSD is a bit like randomly rewiring the connections between the neurons. Joel Pettersson said: I can use my head as a music player. If by that, you mean recall music that you've remembered, I can do that as well, although I prefer to listen to actual music instead of immaging it. Just out of curiosity, can most people 'listen' to music they remember? I always thought they could. Something else I like to do is to try and immagine what a Techno/Rave remix of an 80's song would sound like. AE. -- |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: Is this an effect of AS, or is this something else unrelated. It appears to be. I've read other accounts from people with AS who do the same thing. Pattern recognition skills are usually greatly enhanced in people with AS, so the two are no doubt related. Somewhere on this site is an excellent explanation of how LSD interects with the brain. Sorry, but I'm too lazy to find it
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Andrei Ellman
Member #3,434
April 2003
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So does that mean that LSD in small doses can temporarily induce AS in someone that doesn't have it? Does that also mean that Autism can be induced with greater doses of LSD? I personally think the former is possible, but doubt the latter, as the two states of mind seem completely different. AE. -- |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: So does that mean that LSD in small doses can temporarily induce AS in someone that doesn't have it? It can mimic some of the effects. Quote: Does that also mean that Autism can be induced with greater doses of LSD? I doubt it.
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: If by that, you mean recall music that you've remembered, I can do that as well, although I prefer to listen to actual music instead of immaging it. The way I mean it, is it actually FEELS like its playing, I can actually HEAR it as if it is playing. And clearer than if it were playing from my computers. My mind creates the instruments and vocals, and lets me hear them. Most times I can't remember more than a few lines of a song at any one point normally. But once I get the music, the entire music is there, every note, voice, instrument, and sometimes effects like being in hall's etc. Now, it could very well seem like a halucination, but people with AS (which it isn't confirmed I have...) have a brain that works differently from the norm. Things are wired up differently. Someone with severe Autism will have very severe issues with sensory input, most times all the senses are multiplied 1000 times, causing a huge overload. People with AS, its the same, but way less severe, and tends to focus on a single sense (I think). Quote: Just out of curiosity, can most people 'listen' to music they remember? Very possibly, I've not talked to "most people" Its one reason I like anime so much, often times the plot or animation of a show won't be the best, but the sound track is great, and I'll end up liking the show quite a bit. Ever get that goose bump like shiver from excitement, head to toe? I do, and good music can trigger it -- |
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Andrei Ellman
Member #3,434
April 2003
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Someone with severe Autism will have very severe issues with sensory input, most times all the senses are multiplied 1000 times, causing a huge overload. That almost sounds like the effects of hallucinogens. Apparently, the brain automatically filters out as much superfluous information as it can, but with a hallucinogen, the brain is overloaded with all sorts of information it wan't previously. AE. -- |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Um, its more like someone is screaming in your ears, shining a halogen into your eyes, and rubbing your skin with sandpaper, 24/7. Not much "halucinating" going on for a Autistic person. A halucination implies that there was something there you were halucinating, like a voice, or your dead grandma, or whatever. -- |
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Quote: I also have a complete inablity to be bored. If there's "nothing to do" I can just amuse myself by finding text and rearranging all the letters in my head using a rather complex little mathematic system I designed as a child to see what parts of the text "equate" to other parts. Most people go WTF? when I tell them I do that, but to me its perfectly normal, and I was quite surprised when I finally learnt that it's something that I do, and not something that everyone does.
I tend to do the same exact thing. I also end up doing it with numbers, like I look at the clock and figure out how the numbers compare, often thinking up complex formulas, then a completely new one next time I look at the clock. I was professionally diagnosed with AS a couple years ago, but the negative symptoms of it seem to be going away for me (I force myself into social situations, and now I am not nearly as uptight about them as I used to be). |
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Andrei Ellman
Member #3,434
April 2003
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Um, its more like someone is screaming in your ears, shining a halogen into your eyes, and rubbing your skin with sandpaper, 24/7. In that case, giving an autistic person a halucinogenic drug would be a complete disaster. AE. -- |
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