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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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That second group usually only happens durring certian times. See I probably do have BiPolar, since my mood/personality likes to change depending on the time of year and/or if I've had a "stress crash" (or just change when ever it feels like sometimes), and the Meds I'm on now actually help to some extent with the main BiPolar symptoms.

And while BiPolar fits pretty well with my symptoms, imo, AS fits better, and AS I hear can mimic BiPolar, as BiPolar can mimic ADD (etc). Its all the same imo, shades of gray. We'll see if the doctors will agree with me at some point.

edit, one thing though, that kinda makes me think that the music bits are all just halucinations, the one thing I'm on is a glorified tranqulizer (Seroquel), and makes the music go away, along with my horrible nightmares (so, even though the seroquel makes me groggy as hell, its still worth it.. been having the same damn dreams and nightmares for up to 20 years (depending on the dream), I hate those dreams).

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nonnus29
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Well, I scored 27 and 98/102. I do see patterns alot, but I don't do any novel mental excercises either. I used to experience severe anxiety but learned some mental tricks to avoid it in my teens.

These tests are pretty much meaningless though. Even if you try to answer them truthfully, the result will depend on how your day is going to that point.

Joel Pettersson
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Thomas Fjellstrom said:

I'll "make" entire musics in my head, with a multitude of instruments, and I actually HEAR it. I wish that happened more often to tell you the truth. Though before I get to that point, I usually just recall entire "pop/rock" songs in my head, all the lyrics, instruments etc. Thats nice too, even though afterwards (or outside of "the zone") I couldn't actually tell you the lyrics or the name of the song in most cases. And no, its no dream. At least not as if I'm sleeping.

I can use my head as a music player. As I listen to music, I gradually memorize pieces of it; the more, particularly when concentrating, the better I can recall them. I have a ton of music from old console games lodged in my head that often play in the background, among many other things.

As for how it is heard, it is different than "real" sound. The experience is fainter, somehow (how much varies), but can have significantly more "depth" than the real thing at times, thanks to the processing capabilities of the brain. (though it requires a bit of concentration) Going by my experience, I'd say it is experienced in the same manner as things are during dreams, though not as intensely.

Things play automatically, shifting from time to time, as well as according to what I associate with the current situation. Though I can consciously change the track, apply various different effects (half-arsed dynamics processing, equalization, distortion, etc.), as well as use my mind as a synth.

It not only goes on while I am awake, but during my dreams as well. Then, however, it is not only music from real-life, but also (often rather weird) compositions automatically made by my brain, seemingly in real-time, more or less in accordance to what goes on in the dream.

Apart from the occasional, relatively brief pause, the only times it is wholly silent is when I am concentrating on making it so, very deeply relaxed, or listening to "real" audio.

And as for me, I have been diagnosed with both AS and Tourette's.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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If only the good "music player" mode didn't come along with equally bad things...

I have always been able to whistle songs, if its playing, I can pretty much get a song down while its playing, though I'll only remember bits of it afterwards, unless I concentrate intently on remembering the rest, which takes an insane amount of concentration (which is really really hard for me to do...)

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Neil Walker
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April 2000
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I got 6 on the first test, 76 on the other (making me neurotypical). which is odd given I ticked most of the boxes for HFA.

On the pre-questionnaire for the aspie one I was trying to figure out what it meant for 10 minutes and still couldn't figure it out, so I got the wife in and she couldn't either, anyone?

'Please imagine you work in a big open plan office. On your way home after work, you realise you forgot something and go back. As you approach the open office door, you see one of your colleagues. He explains the new computer system to another employee, an older woman who will retire next week. How much would what you saw change your opinion of your collegues altruism?'

What's telling someone who's retiring about a new system got to do with your view of his altruism. the only thing it makes me think is that bit of information has nothing to do with being nice and only relevant if she wasn't retiring.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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well, I see it as being nice since shes retiring, if she wasn't, it'd be something you'd have to do, where as you could probably wiggle out of it since its not really worth the effort to train someone who's leaving.

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Neil Walker
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but that's got nothing to do with altruism as he wasn't thinking of her welfare. If he was going out of his way to explain what it was because she was old and still working there, and he thought she might not understand, then I'd understand.

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LennyLen
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Neil, this is how I interpreted it. If she's retiring next week, then some people would just say "I'm not going to help her, she's leaving anyway." So not only is he staying behind to help her, his actions won't benefit himself or the company.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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Exactly what I tried to say Lenny :)

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Neil Walker
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From my point of view I'm very altruistic but I probably wouldn't tell her about the system unless she asked because I'd figure she wasn't interested and would rather go home because it was late.

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manjula
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Matthew Leverton
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HardTranceFan
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Just what I want to see straight after breakfast. :P

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LennyLen
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December 2004
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Just what I want to see straight after breakfast.

Yikes, it's noon already and I still haven't had mine. I kinda forgot that those pains in your stomach mean eat something.

nonnus29
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My sister had an idea for a female product just like that, but when her and her husband researched it they found it had already been done (as the picture proves).

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Neil, this is how I interpreted it.

I took the persons offer to help as not being altruistic at all. Number one it was a waste of time because the woman was leaving and probably didn't care anyway. Number two I thought he was just sucking up to the boss by offering to stay late. So his/her actions negatively effected my outlook toward that person.

Maybe I've just been around more cut-throat office politicking than most... :-/

LennyLen
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Maybe I've just been around more cut-throat office politicking than most.

I believe the reason they asked that question is because most people with AS are generally naive when it comes to sensing other peoples motives. While I have a good understanding of office politics, I'm oblivious to it unless I'm actively looking for it. People with AS also tend to be very trusting which can make us easy to manipulate. I think most people who have AS would have said that they assumed the person was doing it to be nice.

My answer was that I would not have read anything into the situation one way or the other, which is true. I really wouldn't care.

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Number one it was a waste of time because the woman was leaving and probably didn't care anyway.

I don't see how what she felt about the situation reflects on his altruism (or lack of it).

Thomas Fjellstrom
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Number one it was a waste of time because the woman was leaving and probably didn't care anyway.

Except it'll most likely make her life easier for the last week.

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Trezker
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December 2001
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Hmm, mind music player... Doesn't everyone have that shit?
Atleast the one that decides to play the song you hate most all the time.
I have to focus to switch to a good song, but it's damn hard and as soon as I relax the sucky song pops back. >:(
I wonder if I get depressed because that song kept coming to me or if the song comes to me because I'm depressed... Nah, definitely the former, it comes even when I'm happy.

It has happened from time to time that I hear sounds as if they were real, a short burst of crystal clear sound of something random. Awesome stuff, I wish I could control it.

Evert
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November 2000
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Interesting. The question I got was about a woman explaining the computer system to an attractive new male employee. My answer was that it really wasn't my business, that I would be curious if there was an ulterior motive but that I really couldn't begin to say how it would affect my opinion of said woman without knowing how helpful/altruistic she normally was. Which the short story doesn't tell.

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I think most people who have AS would have said that they assumed the person was doing it to be nice.

If it were me doing it, that would have been correct. Which would give me a slight bias to interpreting the behavior as altruistic.

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People with AS also tend to be very trusting which can make us easy to manipulate.

You know... all these things got me thinking. My former girlfriend had many of these symptoms, but I don't think she was diagnosed at the time (she was seeing a psychiatrist though). I wonder what I'd have done if I'd realised this back then... might have been a bit more forgiving when she stopped answering e-mails and text messages...

nonnus29
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Except it'll most likely make her life easier for the last week.

I thought the key aspect to that was that she was retiring. If I'm quiting work altogether, I don't give a damn about the last week. If your my boss, you'll be lucky to see my @ss around. I'll be skipping work to get the Winnabago ready for the cruise down to florida....

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Maybe its just me, but you still have a job to do. Just because you put in a notice or are retiring, doesn't mean that they can't fire you for missing work or not performing your duties. In fact, I'll bet many Boss's will be on the look out for ways to take away a retirees pension.

Maybe I care too much about image to do something like that.

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LennyLen
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December 2004
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Maybe I care too much about image

tomasu.AS_score -= 50;

;D

But seriously, I know what you mean. While I don't care much about my physical image, or being part of the latest fad, I have a lot of professionl integrity, which is important to me.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Oh its not physical image... Its what people think of me, or really, looking bad. The core of my Social Phobia and anxiety.

edit: It developed later in life.. I started out shy, but once I hit puberty, everything started going wrong ::)
edit2: of course it wasn't just puberty. Life started getting really hectic (divorse, moving, etc) around when I was 8...

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LennyLen
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Oh its not physical image

Sorry, I was deliberately taking what you said out of context in an attempt at humour. I thought removing the last half of your sentence would make that obvious, but I guess not.

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The core of my Social Phobia and anxiety.

That's the core of all Social Phobia. The Phobia Society of America define Social Phobia as "an excessive, unreasonable fear that some particular action will be noticed by others in public. Examples are fear of public speaking; stage fright; fear of urinating in public bathrooms, signing one's name, or being watched while eating. Panic may be experienced if the person attempts the feared beghaviour."

If I can get my scanner working, I have some excellent Patient Treatment Manuals for Social Phobia, Panic Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder. A lot of the material they have is advantageous to anyone with low self-esteem, whether or not they have social phobia.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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Sorry, I was deliberately taking what you said out of context in an attempt at humour.

Yeah, I saw it, I just chose to comment anyhow ;)

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That's the core of all Social Phobia.

I wish someone would have explained that sooner ::) I assumed it was just afraid of any social situation and people.

edit2, been diagnosed with it for 2+ years, and didn't know what it really meant. Nice.

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