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gnolam
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March 2002
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I never said the correlation coefficient was 1, did I?

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Trezker
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December 2001
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Winter-een-mas, for getting together with the family you choose.

I don't like having to buy gifts on demand. It kills my lust to give anything at other times. All I want is good food and play some board games with close relatives, but I get that from time to time when birthdays are celebrated anyway so if christmas was no longer celebrated that wouldn't really put a dent in what I care about.

Oh, almost forgot Julmust! Gotta have julmust, that's definitely the most important thing about christmas.

BAF
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December 2002
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I'm Christian too, so that drops your coefficient more. :P

Anyway, did anyone see this?

miran
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June 2002

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Anyway, did anyone see this? [foxnews.com]

63 year old great grandmother, 27 year old mother with a 12 year old son. That explains a lot...

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Ariesnl
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November 2002
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Send a Yule card instead.

Celebrating the return of the light was NOT invented by christianity ;)
Instead they made the god of light: Lucifer (wich means light bearer) their devil.
Originally Lucifer was a celtic god associated with the moring star Venus (Venus rises just before the sun, thus announces the coming of light)

On top of that a lot of the christmas story comes from the god Mithras

So it's not just the cristmas tree that has a pagan origin ;D

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Kibiz0r
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September 2005
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Strange. I'm seeing a correlation between religion and IE use on this site.

Ahem.

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Ariesnl
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November 2002
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You know there is some difference between Wicca and Witchcraft, tough a lot of wiccans will tell you there is no difference ;)

But Indeed I only use firefox ;D

Explanation :
-- Witches have learned to think for themselves and not blindly follow a "leader" -- think about it, you might learn something ;)

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gnolam
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Oh, almost forgot Julmust! Gotta have julmust, that's definitely the most important thing about christmas.

Christmas ham and julmust is why Christmas was invented!

Ariesnl said:

Explanation :
Witches have learned to think for themselves and not blindly follow a "leader" -- think about it, you might learn something ;)

Blindly following a bunch of recently made-up "ancient" beliefs is better?

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Ariesnl
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I see you are refering to Gerald Gardner who "made" Wicca in the 1950's..
As I told you Witchcraft is NOT the same as Wicca ;)

Is it so hard for you to read what others post ?

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gnolam
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Is it so hard for you to write legibly?

My previous post stands. It doesn't matter if you practice "witchcraft" or "wicca" - you're just as foolish.

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Ariesnl
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November 2002
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Like most people here, I know you're trying to offend as many people as you can.
But I'm not willing to make it too easy for you, you might get bored and become even worse ;);D

so tell me.. What is foolish about witchcraft? and why

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X-G
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Let's start with the part where you believe fairytale nonsense that's idiotic and just not plain grounded in reality, add the pretentious emo-ness to it, and we have a good basis.

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Ariesnl
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November 2002
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Let's start with the part where you believe fairytale nonsense that's idiotic and just not plain grounded in reality, add the pretentious emo-ness to it, and we have a good basis.

Ok let's start with that part.

Short (and maybe rude) answer:
That part doesn't exist.

Longer Answer:
- Define "Fairytale nonsense" ?

- What make's you think I'm EMO ?? I celebrate life, like all "real" witches do
And I have no reason to complain.

- I don't believe in fairytales,
If there is one religion that's GROUNDED it's witchcraft ;D

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Kikaru
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You mean, in the ground? Buried? Smells like old fish?~
BTW, one of my friends used to be a "witch," and he was really depressed and suicidal. He stopped that, and that, among a few other things, helped him be normal again. :)

Trezker
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December 2001
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Buried? I think you're thinking of Voodoo, a completely different matter.

Kikaru
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August 2006
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No, I was being sarcastic. ::)
Really, I don't see the benefits. It's an almost-deluded form of Satan worship.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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Aren't all these end of the year celebrations really celebrating the fact that the sun is making its comeback? Christmas misses the solstice by 4 days, New Years is even worse... They "moved" Xmas way back when to merge with the Mithra solstice thing.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Kikaru
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August 2006
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Hmmm... I guess. The idea was the birth of Christ, then it got fused with a winter festival, so yeah I guess.

Ariesnl
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November 2002
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@Kikaru

Wrong again, but according to my religion everyone is here to learn

Witches don't worship any "devil"
The devil is a christian "invention" created to force people to do as they say and believe what they say.
Deities of other religions where "incorporated" into their devil, so they would have an excuse to concour and murder. The trident of poseidon for example.

Don't take my word for it, read some history. About the conquistadores for example

P.S. to a real witch suicide is nonsense, you'll probably start over with the same life.

@Arthur Kalliokoski

That's true Jesus was born in spring (that's a fact !)
The christians moved his birthday to take over yule (wich is the celebration of the return of the creating force of nature) in french it's still called "Joel"

so what Do witches "worship"
Nature itself. As far as I know it's the only religion that has a god and Godess that anyone can see and touch ;)

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Ariesnl
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;D

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Trezker
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We all know I'm Jesus, and I was born in July.

Johan Halmén
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That's true Jesus was born in spring (that's a fact !)

Fact? Are there any other documents besides the Gospels? And the Apocryphic Gospels? Some may study them and figure out that the shepherds wouldn't have been there doing what they did if it had been in December. Some say therefore the whole event took place in autumn. But I find the Gospel (Mark's Gospel, I think) rather fictional on this point. It is more of a legend with literary value. The author's idea may not have been to point out the right time of the year for us. I bet he wanted to tell other things.

Some have studied ancient astronomical calendars to trace events like the Christmas star (constellations, comets, supernovas...) and placed the event to year 3 BC (there are lots of other possible dates, too). Again, that's kind of interesting but a bit off the main subject.

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X-G
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a bit off the main subject

So far off the main subject that it's laughable, in fact.

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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What was the main subject again? I recall something about muffins ...

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Some say therefore the whole event took place in autumn.

Yeah, that's the generally accepted theory. So it's a "fact" Jesus was born in the spring, eh? Facinating. ;)

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