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HoHo
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April 2004
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I wonder what happens if we find (intelligent) life on other planets?
Bible said God created people by his look. I wonder by whose look did he create those other creatures. Perhaps they say that God has several faces or something ;D
I think the Bible doesn't say there exist any other life forms besides what is on Earth. Probably it also doesn't say that it does not exist so just as with fitting evolution theory to creatonism extraterrestial life could be fitted too.

Does anyone know what religions think about the fossils that are supposedly from Mars?

Anyway, finding intelligent life on other planets will severely screw up most religion beliefs. Perhaps thats why there is all this coverup around aliens, to avoid massive panic ;D

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Evert
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Bible said God created people by his look. I wonder by whose look did he create those other creatures.

They obviously look just like us. Don't you watch Star Trek? :P

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Does anyone know what religions think about the fossils that are supposedly from Mars?

Best to leave those fossils from Mars where they belong: in science fiction stories.
What was thought to be fossils from Mars a couple of years ago have turned out to be perfectly normal anorganic mineral deposits. Fascinating from a geological point of view, but not from a biological one.

Trumgottist
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HoHo said:

I wonder what happens if we find (intelligent) life on other planets?

Read "Out of the Silent Planet" by C. S. Lewis.

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Johan Halmén
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I don't believe in intelligent life on other planets, either.

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Rampage
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December 2002
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"Intelligent Design"...If God is so smart, how come he created science then? To make us doubt?

-R

Arvidsson
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May 2004
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How come he created sin?

Fladimir da Gorf
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October 2001
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That's because science is made by satan! Nooo, we're all doomed!

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HoHo
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Best to leave those fossils from Mars where they belong: in science fiction stories.

heh, I didn't know that. I red about them some years ago and I haven't red anything about these stories being wrong. Too bad :-/

On a similar topic, aren't there several missions planned to find out if there really is/was life on Mars? They have quite good reasons to believe there once was open water sea there so life was probably not very unlikely.

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Read "Out of the Silent Planet" by C. S. Lewis.

Hmm, roughly 100 pages. I might read it if I put Isaac Asimov’s “Robot,” “Empire,” and “Foundation” series aside for a while :)

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I don't believe in intelligent life on other planets, either.

I don't believe in intelligent life on other planets, just as I don't believe in God :)
I do believe that we are not alone in the universe. Only problem is that it is so big there is little chance of two intelligent species from different planets to ever meet :'(

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"Intelligent Design"...If God is so smart, how come he created science then? To make us doubt?

Why did he made people able to not believe in him :-X

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Rampage
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December 2002
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This is the kind of confusion that made me turn to the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism

-R

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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When I was in high school, I believed in Evolution because my teacher told me to. I stopped believing it a few years ago when I went and learned about it myself (and no, not from religious sources ::)), because the problems I found with the theory had never even come up and I could never find an honest answer; just "How dare you question Evolution! It's established! Evolutionists agree it's true! Here's a bunch of evidence that says we're right and that's that! Anything that challenges or goes against our views are just religious propoganda!"

Go ahead. Teach Evolution as Gospel and never mention the failings and challenges to the theory in the classroom. You'll just keep producing more of me. :)

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X-G
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December 2000
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Sounds like you found some really retarded people to ask. How about you ask some real scientists who can explain it to you proper? Or are you ignoring them on purpose and just looking at the easily dismissable kooks? :P

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23yrold3yrold
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Sounds like you found some really retarded people to ask. How about you ask some real scientists who can explain it to you proper? Or are you ignoring them on purpose and just looking at the easily dismissable kooks? :P

Hmmm; first place I went was here. Read quite a bit of stuff on that site back when I was into this. Just so I know whether it has the X-G Seal Of Approval, are those "really retarded people" and "easily dismissable kooks"?

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Rampage
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Go ahead. Teach Evolution as Gospel and never mention the failings and challenges to the theory in the classroom. You'll just keep producing more of me.

Yeah, it's always the need for absolute answers what makes anyone to turn to religion instead of science.

-R

23yrold3yrold
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Yeah, it's always the need for absolute answers what makes anyone to turn to religion instead of science.

Because, of course, the two are in conflict. :P

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Rampage
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Because, of course, the two are in conflict. :p

Indeed! Why would you need faith then, if you can prove what you're talking about?

-R

23yrold3yrold
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Indeed! Why would you need faith then?

Faith requires evidence (or "faith follows facts" as the saying goes). Only a complete cretin believes in something for no reason, even if it's a bad one.

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Rampage
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Come on, that's a faulty argument, and you know it ;).

Not to say I'm criticizing your beliefs, I'm a spaghetti monsterist myself.

-R

23yrold3yrold
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Come on, that's a faulty argument, and you know it ;)

I assume you're just trolling?

Anyway, I'm going to work soon, so I'll see you later when the thread is closed. :P

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da_flo
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February 2002
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But what evidence do have religious believers, for their faith ? ???

Rampage
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I assume you're just trolling?

No, it's just difficult to discuss when we are not talking about the same thing.

-R

Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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The genetic sciences, vast fossil records and scientific studies done which show (slowly) evolution occuring now makes it hard for me to doubt the general idea of evolution. As for the precise details, I'm ok for people to argue about them. :)

Do you doubt genetics and the evidence of evolution 23?

23yrold3yrold
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No, it's just difficult to discuss when we are not talking about the same thing.

Oh; okay! Ummm .... bye then.

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Do you doubt genetics and the evidence of evolution 23?

Not sure sure I understand the first question; do I doubt I have genetic code? Not really. :) And it's not that I doubt the evidence of evolution; I just don't think it goes terribly far in proving much. Most real-world examples of evolution I've been shown as "proof" (finch beaks, moths that change colour, bacteria experiments in general) are just high-school level heredity, for example. But it's held up as so much more in the papers I've read. All of which leaves me incredibly underwhelmed and makes me wonder if people are just fooling themselves at this point. The concern I have is that evolution is so well established that no one considers things like the "challenges". That comic David McCallum posted is perfect; heaven forbid people learn to think and reason for themselves ...

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HoHo
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What about domesticaded pigs, sheep, dogs and other animals? They are not yet a new species but not too far from it I think.

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james_lohr
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February 2002

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possible evolution in humans

That's completely silly. There is no mechanism by which more intelligent people are selected for breeding. Humans will never evolve without something like fascism to do the selecting ...and I'm sure that we can all agree that this will hopefully never happen.



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