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Chris Katko
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As a lifelong AMD user, I'll believe it when I see the benchmarks on real user machine.

I went from an AMD FX-8370 to an older ~i5 4750 (entire PC, mobo, PSU, case for <150 shipped) and it's been night-and-day better. Literally double the FPS in games. I can actually play in 4K now.

That being said, I understand that AMD is getting better and appreciate it. But the FX-8000 and FX-9000 series has still put a bad taste in my mouth. Especially since they straight up lied about their core counts. (fun fact: they're essentially half because the two "half cores" are so coupled and don't even have their own floating point units. It'll actually speed up in some cases... by disabling four cores. Read that 5 times and let it sink in.)

That being... that being said. As a nerd, I love the idea of 32 or 64 cores. I've got 32 GB of RAM and I use it.

Oh, and one more thing to be fair. My AMD FX-8370 is actually faster when doing incredible (read: stupid) amounts of multitasking like 300 chrome tabs, while rendering video, and playing a game. I tap out at around 200 chrome tabs now. But, individual tasks that actually matter, like a game, run MUCH faster. I ~doubled my Kdenlive framerate which took it from terrible to actually usable. And like I said, I can actually run 4K.

On the other on the other on the otherhand... Kdenlive? Sucks butthole and I recommend a total of NOBODY use it. It's a bait-and-switch. you think you're getting a product that works... that can AT LEAST do the most basic things without bugs and crashing. It's got a full website, with screenshots! It's got version 18.x.x! It's got active developers! HAHAHAHA PSYCHE. You will waste dozens of hours trying to fix a "project breaking bug" to save your huge time investment you sunk into a project before you realized Kdenlive was written by apes.

You will put the time into submitting bug reports with video evidence only to find out that your critical bug, hasn't been touched in almost a year. You'll post on the forums and a year later, realize that nobody is on those forums because everyone else hates Kdenlive so your post is like the top-3 most recent post.

KDEnlive makes FOSS look like a mistake.

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bamccaig
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Are you are you are you OK, Chris?

Side note: yesterday I kept typing random words out of order. For example, the last two words in a sentence might be swapped:

For example, the last two words in a sentence might swapped be.

Which once is not a big deal, but I think I noticed it at least 3 times yesterday which stood out as abnormal. I think I caught most instances before I sent them, but nevertheless.. I don't know whether that means I'm sick, or going crazy, or losing intelligence; or if I was just under stress and one side of my brain was faster than the other. In any case, ... weird.

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bamccaig
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Neil Roy
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Whatever, Yoda.

LMAO. ;D

I've had people say "Okay boomer!" to me lately. Technically, I am not a "boomer" from the dates I have seen to qualify. Stupid thing to say to be honest. I seen this today and I burst out laughing...

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Chris Katko
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Okay boomer is something bigoted millennials with no self-awareness say.

You might as well be saying "okay blacky" when a black person tries to tell you something. You're throwing out literally everything a person could contribute based on a stereotype you have. "Oh silly blacks, they don't know anything about X" sounds racist as hell. Because it is.

I don't agree with TONS of ideas of older generations. That doesn't mean I'm so world-shatteringly narcissistic to think they have nothing to offer.

You know what millennials do for fun? (If we're going to lop them all together the way they want to lop anyone older than them as a "boomer"). They drink each others semen. Like, literally, in a wine glass. And write articles about it. I dare you to Google it. Actual "journalists."

Be gay, be straight, whatever. But if you're drinking another dudes jizz, you might as well just commit and put down a check on the "gay" checkbox.

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bamccaig said:

Are you are you are you OK, Chris?

You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smooooothhh milleniiall!

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bamccaig
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NiteHackr said:

I've had people say "Okay boomer!" to me lately. Technically, I am not a "boomer" from the dates I have seen to qualify. Stupid thing to say to be honest.

It's ultimately just saying that you're old and closed-minded. I agree, younger generations often mislabel older generations as boomers without really paying much attention to what the label really means. Name-calling like that is generally a sign that they have nothing constructive to add to the conversation. That said, typically I've seen liberal/left-leaning people calling conservative/right-leaning people boomers. The typical pro-oil, anti-climate rhetoric is exhausting because the people that spout these ideas are also destructive. They ignore or disbelieve science and assert their claims without even attempting to back it up with reliable sources. As a rule, I generally don't waste much time on EITHER group. :)

Be gay, be straight, whatever. But if you're drinking another dudes jizz, you might as well just commit and put down a check on the "gay" checkbox.

I think that there is still a distinction to make. Homosexuality is something you're born with. You can't "become" gay by performing homosexual acts. Either you were always gay and didn't realize it, or you aren't likely to change despite any acts you participate in.

I'm not sure that tasting/consuming semen would necessarily qualify as gay anyway, even if you naturally enjoyed it. Women are attracted to men, but I think you'll find the vast, vast majority want nothing to do with putting semen in their mouth (or most places really). Some of them tolerate it anyway, which is either awesome or terrible depending on your perspective on it. Some of them learn to even enjoy it, or perhaps more accurately enjoy the praise it nets them from the source or observers.

My generation grew up being taught as children that homosexuality is wrong and disgusting and therefore we were taught that a man putting a penis in his mouth is revolting. Nevertheless the pornography industry has really put blowjobs into the mainstream and so we often get the expectation that women will readily do this and to some extent we expect them to, at least until we run into the inevitable real-world rejection.

That in addition to revelations regarding the nature of homosexuality have lead me to occasionally question if I'd ever be willing to put a penis in my mouth. What if I were held at gunpoint under the threat of being killed or tortured if I refuse? Just how bad could it be? I don't know. I haven't tried. That said, when trying to justify a female partner doing it I have rationalized that it's pretty harmless, and so I must conclude that the same thing would be true if I were to do it. Assuming the lucky bugger didn't have any transmittable diseases it should be pretty much harmless. It shouldn't "make me gay". At worst it might be a little upsetting or traumatizing depending on the circumstances (i.e., voluntary or forced), but likely if it was voluntary the worst that could happen is an unpleasant taste in my mouth temporarily.

To conclude, I don't think that if you're a man voluntarily drinking semen that you must subscribe to being homo- or bisexual. It seems to me that a straight man doing such a thing must be very open-minded, which is generally a good thing. Of course, not much is accomplished by doing it (the drinking part doesn't really give pleasure unless you have a fetish for it), aside from perhaps being able to better appreciate what you may at some point ask of your wife or girlfriend. At least then you could say you've done it, it wasn't that bad (assuming it wasn't), and that might give you a winning advantage in the negotiations.

Ultimately though I think ideas of this nature aren't really natural or normal, and have been popularized by pornography. This often sets us up for unrealistic and sometimes even unhealthy expectations and desires within our sex life. And I think it's overdue for society to start questioning pornography and perhaps helping to steer the industry towards a more wholesome representation of sex. Honestly, I think the vast majority of pornography doesn't even appeal to me. I'm not sure if most other people are into that sort of thing, or if porn producers are just really bad at surveying/reading their audiences. I think that out of desperation we utilize pornography regardless of whether it really appeals to us or not when we can't find something better. Perhaps if pornography was a more mainstream subject it would get the attention that it needs.

Insert: Actually I wonder if the real root of the problems with pornography stems from the technology of the 20th century that limited its production and distribution. In the 50's or 60's you were likely limited to stories or magazines. Eventually VHS came out which allowed for movies, but the production and distribution of them would have been prohibitively expensive. Now imagine you're a man (or woman) desperate for solo relieve, but the available materials are prohibitively expensive. You can't quickly consume hundreds or thousands of materials until you find something that works. You have to lay down cold, hard cash to even consume the content, and you can only afford to try a small number of things so you need to maximize your chances of finding something that will work for you. I could see this naturally producing extremes that may have appealed to desperate consumers that felt something so extreme would give them a better chance of success.

With the modern situation of basically unlimited porn available "free" online, and the invention of inexpensive cameras and microphones, things have changed. We don't need to be desperate. Porn can be produced and distributed very inexpensively. Top production quality porn still requires some serious money (i.e., high resolutions mainly), but with the advances in distribution it is much easier to reach a wider audience that can help to supplement the costs.

In short, I wonder if the "extremes" popularized by pornography actually stemmed from the technological limitations of the 20th century. And perhaps we're ready for a new flavour of porn that more closely parallels healthy relationships. There is already a lot of this, but not enough, and it often still flirts with extreme themes.

I think I've digressed now and I don't know where to go from here. I'm derailing my own post. Anyway, drink jizz if you want to, and post it online if you want to I guess... I imagine it's better to learn those lessons by watching third parties do it than having to do it ourselves. In a sense maybe these guys are actually society's unsung heroes! :D

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bamccaig
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I see what you did there. The gun is a metaphor for a penis and the bullet is a metaphor for semen. ;) Append: And I guess his intense aim face is a metaphor for his sex face/orgasm?

raynebc
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I don't agree that people are born gay. It's at least as likely that life experience shapes peoples' sexual preference.

Erin Maus
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I don't think the distinction of "Are you born gay?" or "Do you become gay?" is relevant because you can't consciously choose to be gay or straight, so whether it's nature or nurture, it doesn't matter.

For example, I really tried being masculine (e.g., toning up, growing a beard) but it only made my state of mind worse. When I rejected it and accepted I'm not masculine then I've been a lot happier.

There is no good that comes from the idea that homosexuality is a choice.

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raynebc
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I can agree with that, but there are people who will use junk science to claim either extreme ("people are born gay" is just an extreme of a viewpoint as "being gay is merely a choice"). People can choose whether to act on their preferences and be gay or not gay, they should do what makes them happy if it doesn't infringe on another person's freedoms, but they shouldn't lie about why they're doing it in order to provide some kind of justification or shield themselves from the consequences of their actions.

bamccaig
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It's not "extreme" to suggest that people are born gay. It stands to reason I think. Otherwise, we'd be able to control sexual orientation by setting up the right environment. Attempts to do this have failed however.

Why do you think gay people are doing it? And what consequences do you think their actions have?

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Among homosexuals, I have detected two types, one that ends up being homosexual because they liked their first experience in this way, and the other those who pretend to be homosexuals only to get rid of the damn desire, either to evade laws or social discrimination , but they are all thirsty dogs with hormones to burst.

It is very rare to find genuine homosexuals, and fakers are the most active. a couple of different sexes is not the same as a couple of the same sex, if you are active or passive there is no impact on whether it was consensual or rape.

they are probably gaps in the laws or failure in society that nobody takes over because nobody wants to know either, and they take advantage of it that way.

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bamccaig said:

It's not "extreme" to suggest that people are born gay. It stands to reason I think.

I think it's pretty hilarious that liberals have decided it's one way with any contrary research being attacked. Like, even if it was "a choice" how does "a choice" make it any less beautiful and acceptable? We make choices every day. We choose who we get married to. My choices, in one sense, are way more significant than any of my genetics.

The real reason they want that idea banned, is because then it's possible that if "it's a choice" somehow, we're gonna start opening up anti-gay conversion centers on every block and throw gays in camps where we force them to pick gay cotton and design us new fashions.

I pay special attention to any topic that magically became taboo. Like, "Why" is it taboo now? Are we really gaining anything by going out of our way to NOT discuss things? And Does discussion of ideas--working through the logic to understand something--have anything to do with 'hatred'? No, not really.

Gay people are people. Not really rocket science. But how gay people get here doesn't REQUIRE them to be born a certain way to make them 'valid'.

RmBeer2: I'd be careful. You almost come off as negative / hateful in your word choices. If that's your intent, fair enough but I don't share it.

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Erin Maus
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The idea that homosexuality is a choice does a few things.

First, the idea makes sexuality more like political affiliation or career choice. This means it's harder to reason as a protected class (after all you can be fired for being a Republican or Democrat [choice], but you can't be fired for being a woman [no choice]).

Secondly, it makes it easier to hate. "You're making a bad choice", like with drug addicts. The reasoning would be people choose to be sexual deviants for, well, sex, much like a drug addict 'chooses' to be a drug addict for the high.

Lastly, it invalidates that it's definitely not a conscious choice. And then is it really a choice? I don't understand the distinction between an unconscious unchangeable choice vs something you're born with in a practical sense.

This was written in like a minute so there's definitely problems with my examples and my logic but I have places to be.

*edit:* sexuality isn't a choice otherwise I'd be asexual, checkmate atheists

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LennyLen
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RmBeer2 said:

Among homosexuals, I have detected two types

Gay people, like every other type of people come in all types. If you can only discern two different types, then the chances are that you're extremely narrow minded.

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but they are all thirsty dogs with hormones to burst

And now you've removed all doubt as to whether you're narrow minded or not.

Neil Roy
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As far as homosexuals are concerned, I really don't care what they do, or who they do it to. Just don't push it on me (literally! ;D) or demand that I somehow acknowledge you and we'll get along just fine.

We have one in our building that doesn't hide the fact. But I find he's a really nice guy. Doesn't throw it in anyone's face which is nice. I wish there were more people as nice as he is.

I often wonder how many males were sexually abused as children by other males that lead to this? Perhaps too young to know better or whatever? I was abused when I was young that way. But I like my partner to be female thanks. If I want to see a man's parts, I can look in the mirror. ;)

As for being a "boomer" and having differing opinions on various modern issues. I always find it interesting that each side of the various debates claims to have all the facts and claim that "real science" backs them up. I think there's a lot of rhetoric thrown around, a lot of ideas just repeated because they sound reasonable and not actually researched. There's a huge divide and nobody willing to consider that they just might be wrong. Or that maybe the truth is somewhere between the two opinions. But do understand that other people's opinions are as valid as your own.

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Edgar Reynaldo
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Okay, I'll bite. Why not.

There are two options. One, homosexuality is a choice. Two, it is not.

Let's consider two first. If it is not a choice, then why would God destroy two cities with brimstone and fire and turn a woman to salt for looking back? If it is not a choice, then the people who committed those 'crimes' are innocent and God punished them unjustly. If you believe God is just, then he would not punish people for things that were not their choice. Therefore option two is invalid if you believe God is just.

This leaves option one. Homosexuality is a choice. Claiming it's not is a cop out. We're all subject to the flesh, and the lusts thereof. It's just that some people feel lust towards members of the same sex, which is an evolutionary dead end. Some people feel the urge, and act on it. Some people don't, which I respect. It takes far more courage to deny yourself the pleasure of the flesh than it does to indulge in it. I won't go into my personal opinions, because they would be detrimental to open discussion. But choosing to be gay is not the unforgivable sin, and Jesus died to cleanse us of our sins. We now live in a time of grace, believe it or not, where God took our judgment and let it rest on the shoulders of His Son. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

No I don't support conversion therapy but I do support people having the courage to deny the sinful nature of their flesh. It's funny that people talk about having pride, but being proud of evil is evil itself.

Believe what you want, I won't tell you how to live, but I want you to be aware that not everything that seems right in this world is right in the eyes of our Father.

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Edgar Reynaldo
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Erin Maus
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OK, Edgar is right, I'm a terrible sinner for being bisexual. Shame. How does the Bible define gender, by genetics, genitalia, hormones, what? Does this mean intersex people can't have sex? Ugh, why didn't God clarify things!!!!! He should've thought ahead.

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Edgar Reynaldo
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LennyLen
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Let's consider two first. If it is not a choice, then why would God destroy two cities with brimstone and fire and turn a woman to salt for looking back? If it is not a choice, then the people who committed those 'crimes' are innocent and God punished them unjustly. If you believe God is just, then he would not punish people for things that were not their choice. Therefore option two is invalid if you believe God is just.

This leaves option one. Homosexuality is a choice.

Your logic is flawed. You're basing it on the premise that there is a god.

Have you ever considered just talking to a gay person and asking them if they chose to be gay?

raynebc
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They came to be gay over the course of their life. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that. They just shouldn't try to manipulate other people's sexuality. Like the stuff where some abusive parents try to convince their young children that the latter are transgender.



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