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Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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Neil Roy said:

Heck, even biblically (a subject I am hesitant to bring up on here), Adam and Eve were totally nude and God didn't have a problem with it until THEY were ashamed. I still can't figure out why they were ashamed.

Study the language used in Genesis in the Greek and you will find out what they were ashamed of.

As the story goes, the serpent (Satan) tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden with the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (which is symbolic for Satan himself). In the Greek it says Eve was "wholly seduced" by Satan. Adam and Eve had sex with the devil. THAT is why they were ashamed and made coverings for themselves. It is very easy to prove this. Eve had two children at first, Cain and Abel. Cain was the son of the devil, and Abel was the son of Adam. Cain murdered Abel because he was jealous of the blessings Abel had received from God. Jesus talked about this when he said, "Ye are of your father the devil. A murderer he was from the beginning, and the work of your father ye shall do." Jesus was referring to the Kenites (the sons of Cain, the son of the devil). Satan was trying to prevent the Messiah from being born. But God gave Adam and Eve another child, Seth, through which the line of the Messiah came.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised you didn't know this Neil.

Neil Roy
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No... I won't get into a Biblical debate. Bu-Bye!!! :) But I have studied it and I know what it says.

In other news... working on a remake of my older Test3D program using slightly better OpenGL, but not modern shaders. Somewhere in between. I may optimize it later, but if I have to recode every project every time the Kronos group decides to redo the opengl spec, I'll never get anything done! ;)

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Edgar Reynaldo
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Neil Roy said:

No... I won't get into a Biblical debate. Bu-Bye!!! :) But I have studied it and I know what it says.

If you're so sure of yourself, what are you afraid of? I find it funny that you claim to have read the Bible several times and yet you still don't know something as simple as the fact that Satan has children too. Ever read about the tares and the wheat? The seed the enemy sowed are his children, the tares. The good seed is the seed that Christ sowed, the children of God. And no that doesn't mean they are all sentenced to hell either. Children of Satan can repent and become children of God by adoption. If you truly "know what it says" then you're obliged to correct me if I'm wrong.

Jeremiah 4:22 said:

22 "For My people are foolish, They know Me not; They are stupid children And have no understanding. They are shrewd to do evil, But to do good they do not know."

Neil Roy
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Perhaps you missed this the first time around... let me repeat myself.

Neil Roy said:

No... I won't get into a Biblical debate.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Who is this Jesus guy, and why is he always trying to save me?

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Neil Roy
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Edgar Reynaldo
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LennyLen
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Who is this Jesus guy, and why is he always trying to save me?

He's a kid from Mexico playing the simulation world you're living in.

Neil Roy
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Way to deflect the argument. What I said is biblical. Don't believe me, try reading your Bible again. ::)

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Chris Katko
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"Don't be a d!ck." Proverbs 0:13

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Neil Roy
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Chris Katko
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Neil Roy
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Anyone else watch the SpaceX launch today? It was amazing. The best part about it, at least for me, was watching those two boosters land again after launch. Incredible feat.

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Chris Katko
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Rockets are spreading God's love into orbit.

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Polybios
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October 2010

Genesis in the Greek

:-/

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It is very easy to prove this.

Interpretation of texts != proof.
Interpretation of texts without deep knowledge of its original language and cultural context: very far away from proof.

Neil Roy
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Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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Polybios said:

Genesis in the Greek

:-/

It is very easy to prove this.

Interpretation of texts != proof.
Interpretation of texts without deep knowledge of its original language and cultural context: very far away from proof.

I meant Hebrew. I was thinking of the New Testament when I said that. Big deal.

And yes, it's quite easy to prove that Satan has children if you cross reference the bible. Not everything is an "interpretation". Some things are literal. And the best way to look at what was said is to look at the original texts in Hebrew and Greek. It's one step closer to the source.

It's very, very obvious what happened in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve had sex with Satan, and Eve gave birth to Cain, Satan's son. This gave rise to the Kenites. This is who Jesus was speaking of. The story of the tares and the wheat tells you the EXACT SAME THING. They covered their private parts because they were ashamed of having had sex with the devil. End of story. :P

Neil Roy
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It's very, very obvious what happened in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve had sex with Satan, and Eve gave birth to Cain, Satan's son.

Adam had sex with Satan too? LMFAO, wow... just... wow...

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Edgar Reynaldo
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Neil Roy
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You don't like the truth, too bad. But I've had enough of your insults you petulant old fool.

And what truth would that be "Edgar"?! Quote me a verse to back up what you say. You cannot, because it doesn't exist!

bamccaig
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It's very, very obvious what happened in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve had sex with Satan, and Eve gave birth to Cain, Satan's son. This gave rise to the Kenites. This is who Jesus was speaking of. The story of the tares and the wheat tells you the EXACT SAME THING. They covered their private parts because they were ashamed of having had sex with the devil. End of story. :P

Wait, wasn't Satan in the form of a "serpent" in the Garden of Eden. How do you have sex with that? I mean, I can imagine ways, but more to the point, how do you get pregnant from having sex with that?!

And also, pretty sure god said no apples, but I don't think he said anything about putting a serpent in your pussy. It kind of sounded like anything else was OK at the time. ::)

Eric Johnson
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January 2013
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Good edit, Neil.

So I haven't had a haircut in 5+ years now, but I'm thinking about getting one. I'd have to overcome my crippling social anxiety to do that though. 8-) How often do you guys get your hair cut?

bamccaig said:

Wait, wasn't Satan in the form of a "serpent" in the Garden of Eden.

Maybe "serpent" has other meanings here... Ever heard the expression "trouser snake"? ::)

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Chris Katko
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Chuck Norris lost his virginity before Adam did.

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LennyLen
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So I haven't had a haircut in 5+ years now, but I'm thinking about getting one. I'd have to overcome my crippling social anxiety to do that though. 8-) How often do you guys get your hair cut?

I usually do my own. But here is how I dealt with social phobia and hair cuts in general: I'll choose somewhere as close as possible then walk past a few times so I can get an idea of the layout and exits. I'll choose one person and only ever go to that one person so that there's as much routine as possible and I always get the same cut.

I can pretty much go in to any hair dresser now as I've managed to make it an environment I feel ok in.

As long as you can retain a sense of control over the situation, you'll be ok. The familiarity helps build a sense of control.

Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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Neil Roy said:

And what truth would that be "Edgar"?! Quote me a verse to back up what you say. You cannot, because it doesn't exist!

How about Genesis 3?

Here, Pastor Arnold Murray goes over Genesis chapter 3 in explicit detail. He provides a full biblical proof of what I say. I learned it from him, I should know. He's the best Pastor I've ever known, and he is a true biblical scholar.

video

30 mins of your life to open your eyes to the truth. I'd say it's worth it.

And for Christ's sake, it was not an apple tree that Eve ate from.

The serpent is just another name for Satan. Read Revelations 20.

I could go into more detail, but Pastor Murray already did all the work for me.

Watch the video.

Pastor Murray's teaching saved my life, and picked me up out of the pit of despair. I know he was sent by God, because he teaches God's word without apology. Chapter by chapter, verse by verse, the way it should be taught.

I highly encourage all of you to watch any of the Shepherd's Chapel videos on Youtube. They will change your life.

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