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Earbuds you can sleep with?
jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

A few months ago, I went to a rock concert where I acquired permanent tinnitus (buzzing) in my left ear. This makes it very difficult to sleep. Anyhow, I was wondering if any of you knew of headphones, earbuds, etc that one can sleep with comfortably. That will not fall out and will not cause pain or discomfort.

Thanks

Gideon Weems
Member #3,925
October 2003

Ouch. What band was it?

I use a pair of super-comfortable Shure earbuds from time to time. They're great--but I don't think I could recommend any earbuds for sleeping with. The only thing I could recommend is talking with a doctor.

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

It was Dream Theater in March, I got acoustic shock in my left ear during the drum solo.

I have seen 3 doctors, an audiologist and an ENT. They all told me to buy a white noise machine, but white noise amplifies my T.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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I can't really help with the earbuds, and I wouldn't recommend sleeping with them in your ears... But I have heard of some rather small in-canal ear buds. Can't remember what they are called sadly.

tinitus really really sucks. I get it randomly. Used to just be "normal" where it'd come in as a highish pitch tone that eventually goes away. These days, it mostly likes to start as a high pitch and ramp down to a low rumble, and when it gets near the low end, part of my ear feels numb and I can't hear quite as well out of that ear for a couple minutes or more. It's dumb as fsck.

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Hard Rock
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September 2001
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I got similar damage from a concert before (the show was so loud that talking, and the noise from showering hurt my ears afterwards for several days).

What I found was that although the tinnitus bothered me for a while making it hard to sleep, after a couple months I stopped noticing and got used to it. It also got better too (although it's still not where it was before). So just hang on for a bit and hopefully it will get better :).

That said I'm super paranoid now and I wear ear plugs for every concert I go to, even if it's not that loud.

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J-Gamer
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January 2011
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Hard Rock said:

That said I'm super paranoid now and I wear ear plugs for every concert I go to, even if it's not that loud.

I have extremely sensitive hearing, so I need ear plugs even for places where it's not loud enough to cause damage. I (almost) always have my noise-cancelling ear-buds and ear plugs(music filters) with me.

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jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

My problem has always been the opposite... I love extremely loud noise... but yeah, no more concerts for me... I have noticed that it is amazing how many people have T once you talk about it.

First couple of months were absolute hell, but now it has been 3 full months and I'm starting to function again... it's not so much that it's that loud, but it just scares the **** out of me sometimes. Some days I hear it in running water, in the fan, etc... But if I keep my anxiety down, it's just a little buzzing in my left ear. It's a matter of mind over matter.

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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Oh shit that sucks! The other day I don't remember what English acronyms I was looking for when I saw a youtube video with ASRM (Autonomous sensory meridian response) since then I haven't stopped from seeing mostly women/girls speaking really low and touching stuff (ehhhhh break;) producing "relaxing" sounds.

Really there are some good videos that triggers that "ASRM" feeling but mostly are just relaxing, I don't know of any really comfortable headphones, though. I use to listen music with my cellphone under my pillow but I know it's not the same.

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

Yeah I have watched several ASMR videos. Sometimes the girl is pretty and it's better than the sound itself ;)

bamccaig
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July 2006
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That really sucks. I have only been to two concerts, and they were local. Hoobastank/Staind and Weird Al. Both were pretty loud, but I'm not sure if they were that loud. I think that it is something that bands should be somewhat responsible for. You shouldn't need to wear ear-plugs to a listening event... That doesn't make sense. I understand the thrill of being physically shaken by the audio, but they should either find a safe way to do it or warn everybody attending that they need hearing protection (and offer it free of charge).

It is something that comes up as a motorcyclist too. The wind noise on my bike is crazy at highway speeds. I have more or less gotten "used to" it, meaning I can pretty much handle any speed my bike is capable of without noticing the wind, but it's hard to say if my ears are being damaged by it... I have a set of ear plugs in my jacket pocket, but I normally don't wear them because I find them uncomfortable and they're inconvenient. Of course, some motorcycles can also have deafening exhausts.

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

@bambam Pretty much what I had thought too.

I saw them at the Bell Center in Montreal. Never saw anything indicating to use ear protection, or anything of the sort. I really feel they should tell people about that.

Interestingly enough though... all other concerts I ever went to were General Admission and were Death Metal, Progressive Metal, Heavy Metal respectively. In all of those, I plopped myself at the absolute front, ahead of the speakers, so the speakers were actually behind me.

This time, I was in the 4th row, 5th seat, almost completely to the left, so my body was shifted more toward the left.

The other major difference is the other times I hardly heard the audience. The other shows I went to were in Quebec City. This time, the audience added a lot of db.

Still though, Dream Theater are progressive metal, and it was a seated event (though everyone stood). The major difference between a GA and seated event is you can't move around at a seated one. So your ears get exposed to a single position. In GA events, people move around move and your ear is exposed to more variety.

From what I have read, 85db is around when you can start doing damage. A typical concert is 10 times as loud at 110db. That's insane... I never knew that until it was too late. Motorcycles ring around 95db and if you ride without a helmet you risk damage eventually.

A person should never have to worry... hmmm... should I put on ear plugs and hear a ****ty show or should I risk permanent tinnitus... hmmmm....

Really sucks for music enthusiasts like me... now I have to live forever with what has been diagnosed as moderate to severe T.

I'm starting to live again but was incredibly depressed for the first couple of months. Even now, I need headphones when I code. I can no longer code in silence because I get huge anxiety. And I'm only 22 :(

Hearing loss / tinnitus are not talked about enough IMO. Do you know how many movies I've watched recently where I'm like, they totally have hearing loss / T from that big explosion.

Funny fact, in the movie The Hunger Games, they do not talk about Katniss' hearing loss from the explosions.

I saw 3 doctors about this, all of which had tinnitus. One had to be on antidepressants for 6 months when he got it. None of them got it as young or as high pitch as me though. Mine is like a CRT tv that you can't turn off.

Everyone I talk to also does not think or believe that it is or can be permanent, but it is.

There should be a way to file a lawsuit for this sort of thing, but tinnitus is subjective and not objectively diagnosable.

I went to an audiologist and my hearing is absolutely perfect.

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Ebonair
Member #15,663
June 2014

Headphones you can sleep with, presented in ASMR form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGLm865sSKQ

William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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Noone's mentioned that the sounds of tinnitus are 'in the head' so perhaps the earplugs won't help at all.

pkrcel
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February 2012

He needs music to fall asleep properly I guess, so that he does not notice those other sounds.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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I've had ringing in the ears for 40 years, and I'm so used to it I don't actually "hear" it if I don't pay specific attention, much like you don't notice your breathing unless you pay attention. It mostly interferes with hearing speech, especially quiet females with high pitch voices yammering from the back seat of the cab.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Ben Delacob
Member #6,141
August 2005
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Motorcycling without earplugs can give you some gradual hearing damage, Bam. I'd suggest decent quality foam plugs (some can be more comfortable than others) or silicone if you want durability. If you can't be bothered, try to not listen to much loud noise for a few hours surrounding rides, as hearing damage occurs much more when your ears can't rest. Two hours of loud music in a row is considerably worse than one now and then one later (but much better than three in a row). Make sure to consider noise level in reviews before you buy your next helmet.

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Derezo
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April 2001
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I watched way more of that ASMR headphone video than I care to admit in detail.

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Gideon Weems
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October 2003

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