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Racial tensions declining?
Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Nah, Bams would have said:

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S.P. : Then kill yourself?

Evert said:

I would never have remembered that. Wow, that feels like a lifetime ago!

Because you have better things to do, apparently Gnolam does not :-/ (I know I don't otherwise I'd be doing it already :P).

I have tons of game ideas and tons of tablets loaded with them and notes about them. I just keep adding to them as the years go by.

Mark Oates
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verthex
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September 2009
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Heart disease drug found to reduce racist attitudes [www.gizmag.com]

Coincidence? I. think. not!

Similarly strange... Acid vs. Alcohol? Studies Suggest LSD Can Help Alcoholics Stop Drinking.

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Well that makes sense on both fronts. Heart disease meds have medicines in them to help your heart but also try to help keep you calm. If you are mellowed by the meds then you don't normally worry about a lot of things. With Acid v Alcohol of course it helps because you are on a stronger drug than the liquor now. You become dependent on the acid and possibly other drugs rather than the liquor. That study is like saying "studies show Heroin makes your stress on financial stress and hygiene issues disappear".

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

LennyLen
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December 2004
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With Acid v Alcohol of course it helps because you are on a stronger drug than the liquor now. You become dependent on the acid and possibly other drugs rather than the liquor. That study is like saying "studies show Heroin makes your stress on financial stress and hygiene issues disappear".

Try reading the article. The participants of the study were only given a single dose of LSD, and a single dose does not cause dependency.

Specter Phoenix
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LennyLen said:

Try reading the article. The participants of the study were only given a single dose of LSD, and a single dose does not cause dependency.

Yes, all studies have controlled variables. Life does not. That is where the study fails, people in real life wouldn't just be satisfied with the low dose and would seek more. People get addicted to prescription pills all the time because they start over taking what they are given. We live in a time where people think that more medicines will either help more or last longer in the system which makes the dependent on the drugs. I've had friends and family members get painkiller prescriptions and if they had severe pain they would take more than what was prescribed (now most my family are dependent on drugs, which is also the reason I only talk to my mom anymore out of the family).

Just remembered a line from a weight loss book I have that was written by a doctor. He says, "our society is geared toward to the immediate; we want things and we want them now." Goes on to talk about how he is constantly getting patients that make up illnesses to get medications and people that are overweight are no different, they want medicines that can be addictive to lose weight rather than doing things in a healthy manner.

LennyLen
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December 2004
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That is where the study fails, people in real life wouldn't just be satisfied with the low dose and would seek more.

Actually, the dosage described in the article is significantly high. The idea here is not to continue to give people small amounts of LSD instead of alcohol, but to give them a single large dose which (for unknown reasons) removes alcoholic tendencies.

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We live in a time where people think that more medicines will either help more or last longer in the system which makes the dependent on the drugs.

You don't become physically dependent on LSD. While it is possible to become psychologically dependent on LSD, the nature of the drug itself makes dependence much less likely than with other psychiatric and recreational drugs.

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I've had friends and family members get painkiller prescriptions and if they had severe pain they would take more than what was prescribed (now most my family are dependent on drugs, which is also the reason I only talk to my mom anymore out of the family).

Most painkiller medications (at least those that you need a prescription for) are very easy to become addicted to, so they're a poor basis for comparison.

weapon_S
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October 2006
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That racism depends on anxiety seems plausible. A cynical turn of events would be that beta blockers would be more strictly regulated, because they inhibit free speech :p
LSD research is interesting too. ;D Of course Norwegians rediscover this research. I've heard some good things about LSD. And a few bad...

verthex
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September 2009
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With Acid v Alcohol of course it helps because you are on a stronger drug than the liquor now. You become dependent on the acid and possibly other drugs rather than the liquor.

Acid is not addictive regardless how many times you trip. It also doesn't mess with your motor functions so I can't imagine how acid could be a stronger drug. Its a strong hallucinogen but thats about it. The visuals from alcohol are probably stronger when drunk, not that you can't see things but the blurry vision is definitely something only alcohol can do on a very low dose, 10-15 shots of rum.

Evert
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We live in a time where people think that more medicines will either help more or last longer in the system which makes the dependent on the drugs.

In the US, maybe.
It certainly struck me that people seemed much more likely to take pills, and take more of them, than what I'm used to from home.

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I've had friends and family members get painkiller prescriptions and if they had severe pain they would take more than what was prescribed

That would just mean they run out more quickly, right?
That said, it's still very dangerous to overdose anything, but most painkillers do extremely nasty things if you overdose them.

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Just remembered a line from a weight loss book I have that was written by a doctor. He says, "our society is geared toward to the immediate; we want things and we want them now."

Again, I think that's mainly the US, although it seems to be getting worse here as well.
This is again something that stood out to me.

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they want medicines that can be addictive to lose weight rather than doing things in a healthy manner.

And this.

weapon_S
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October 2006
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I hear methamphetamines are great for weight-loss >_> Oh, reading Wikipedia, that seems no joke at all... :-X
I've heard the French use a lot of medication as well.

William Labbett
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March 2004
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LSD's the most powerful hallucinogen known to man. I've taken it about 10 times.
It can leave you mentally scarred.

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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verthex said:

Acid is not addictive regardless how many times you trip. It also doesn't mess with your motor functions so I can't imagine how acid could be a stronger drug. Its a strong hallucinogen but thats about it. The visuals from alcohol are probably stronger when drunk, not that you can't see things but the blurry vision is definitely something only alcohol can do on a very low dose, 10-15 shots of rum.

You need to research that. There is LSD addiction and well documented. Even have organizations to get over LSD addiction.
From one of many sites on LSD addiction:

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LSD addiction occurs when the user finds the escape of the drug to be so enjoyable that it becomes an escape from their entire reality. If they are bored - they take the drug, or if they feel a need for “inspiration’ out it comes again, if the real world is not to their liking an LSD addict just has to pop another dose and replace their world with something else. LSD addiction begins when the abuser begins to favor the alternate reality of the “trip” to the relatively mundane situations and experiences available in the real world.

Matthew Leverton
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When people say a drug isn't addictive, they generally are referring to the lack of physical dependence. However, anything can be addictive in the general sense, including complaining, using the Internet, lying, etc.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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When people say a drug isn't addictive, they generally are referring to the lack of physical dependence. However, anything can be addictive in the general sense, including complaining, using the Internet, lying, etc.

So how can we differentiate between lies about addition on the internet?

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Dizzy Egg
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March 2009
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I'm addicted to this thread.

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Johan Halmén
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September 2001

So how can we differentiate between lies about addition on the internet?

1 + 1 = 2
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1 + 1 = anything but 2
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So how can we differentiate between lies about addition on the internet?

1 + 1 = 2
Truth

1 + 1 = anything but 2
Lie

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verthex
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LSD addiction occurs when the user finds the escape of the drug to be so enjoyable that it becomes an escape from their entire reality. If they are bored - they take the drug, or if they feel a need for “inspiration’ out it comes again, if the real world is not to their liking an LSD addict just has to pop another dose and replace their world with something else. LSD addiction begins when the abuser begins to favor the alternate reality of the “trip” to the relatively mundane situations and experiences available in the real world.

Really... good luck getting LSD, that is the stupidest thing I've ever read. If someone does sell you lsd its probably something else, BEWARE!

Dizzy Egg
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I knew there was a reson I was addicted to this thread, it's going from point to pointlessness in a pinball stylee!

From experience, well, 2 or 3 times at the most experience, LSD is by far the strongest I've had, but I've never had heroin (and NEVER will, not even to smoke) so can't say LSD IS the strongest with total factual certainty, but let me assure you as a connoisseur of substances with an agenda of my-highness that LSD is in no way addictive, in the common sense of the word.

Just my opinion, and I'm sticking with it :P

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Specter Phoenix
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When people say a drug isn't addictive, they generally are referring to the lack of physical dependence. However, anything can be addictive in the general sense, including complaining, using the Internet, lying, etc.

Your remark made me wonder why things we need to live aren't considered addictions (air). We are physically dependent on that yet you never hear air addiction or water addiction for that matter.

Timorg
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March 2002

We are physically dependent on that yet you never hear air addiction or water addiction for that matter.

Some people suffer claustrophobia because when they are in a tight enclosed space they fear they are unable to breath, even when there is enough ventilation to allow this to happen. This could be viewed as an addiction to air. Then there is the whole bottled water thing.

Addiction is not as simple as someone becomes chemically addicted to a substance. There is a dependency because it allows the person to escape reality and makes their life more palatable for them to deal with. You could put a million different opiates in front of me, and I can take them and leave them, with no real chance of addiction. Put white spirits in front of me, and I would be seriously tempted to have a drink, and another, and another.

Being dependent on something is not the same as addiction. The word addiction is used when it leads to destructive behavior.

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verthex
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Dizzy Egg said:

so can't say LSD IS the strongest with total factual certainty

I always thought that LSD makes someones' self more pronounced in a trip and usually the experience of ones self is not something anyone really likes experiencing while at work, school, under stress, etc. Its not something you do for a bad day where people are assholes and everyone is sober, which is pretty hard to come by in todays world, otherwise its just impossible to function on it.

Specter Phoenix
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Timorg said:

The word addiction is used when it leads to destructive behavior.

Really? Everything I've search on for addiction have about the same definition "Addiction is a persistent, compulsive dependence on a behavior or substance." None of them say it is destructive behavior though.

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