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Love letters - OR - Yet another failed thread about a woman... |
torhu
Member #2,727
September 2002
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Edgar Reynaldo said: I have received your communication. I have to ask you to cease and desist in your efforts to contact me. If you contact me again in any way, I will contact the authorities. Seems pretty obvious that she's just playing hard to get. I suggest you send her a video of yourself reciting a poem about how much you would enjoy making love to her. |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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I know you don't actually care, but here are the playlists anyway : Disc 1 1 Fearless - Taylor Swift 2 Count On My Love - Liz Phair 3 In The Dark With You - Greg Brown 4 I'm With You - Avril Lavigne 5 4 Real - Avril Lavigne 6 Sparks - Coldplay 7 Phantom Limb - The Shins 8 City Of Blinding Lights - U2 9 Freak Out - Avril Lavigne 10 Tupelo Honey - Van Morrison 11 Crazy Love - Van Morrison 12 Feels So Good - Van Halen 13 Mad Dog 20/20 - Teenage Fanclub 14 Everything Reminds Me Of Her - Elliot Smith 15 Pink Cashmere - Prince 16 I Just Don't Think I'll Ever Get Over You - Colin Hay 17 Release - Pearl Jam Disc 2 1 Love Story - Taylor Swift 2 Closer To You - Liz Phair 3 You Found Me - Kelly Clarkson 4 That's How Strong My Love Is - Otis Redding 5 Mama, You Been On My Mind - Bob Dylan 6 I Slept All Night By My Lover - Greg Brown 7 Looking Through Patient Eyes - P.M. Dawn 8 On A Limb - Neil Young 9 A Man And A Woman - U2 10 Adore - Prince 11 You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift 12 Marry Me - No Doubt 13 All I want Is You - U2 14 Nothing Compares 2 U - Prince 15 The Best Day - Taylor Swift 16 Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own - U2 Disc 3 1 The Girl I Left Behind - Pete Seeger 2 Far Away - The Nadas 3 Now That I Found You - The Nadas 4 Something About Us - Daft Punk 5 Lost Tonight - Liz Phair 6 Diamonds And Pearls - Prince 7 Anything But Ordinary - Avril Lavigne 8 Lullaby - Bond 9 Allegory - Murray Attaway 10 Luna - Smashing Pumpkins 11 Digital Love - Daft Punk 12 Girl Sailor - The Shins 13 Meditation From Thais - Domingues & Ives 14 Learn To Fly - Foo Fighters 15 Into The Mystic - Van Morrison 16 You Lay A Whole Lot Of Love On Me - Shania Twain 17 Wish You Were Here - Avril Lavigne 18 Stop Standing There - Avril Lavigne 19 I Better Be Quiet Now - Elliot Smith 20 Feel Better - The Nadas I think all 3 of them are great CD's, but maybe that's just me. And to everyone who thinks mix CD's are juvenile, I think you're wrong. Good music is a good gift. My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
Oscar Giner
Member #2,207
April 2002
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The big mistake is talking about love, about when you were toghether, and specially this: Quote: Whether we can be friends or whether we can be more than that again is unknown to me You're saying there that you'd like something more than friendship... to someone who you haven't seen in 15 years and who is now married. I'd give that 12 points of creepiness out of 10 . I don't think you're in love either. After 15 years you can't. You just feel nostalgia for some reason now. <edit> -- |
Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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Oscar Giner said: You're saying there that you'd like something more than friendship... to someone who you haven't seen in 15 years and who is now married. In my defense, I wrote that part before I knew she was married, and just never edited it out. My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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It doesn't work to approach a girl in the same sort of way you'd like to be approached by a girl. We go through our lives in a very different way than them. 1) Women are smaller than men. If it came down to a fight, you'd win. This might seem trivial but you've been bigger your whole life -- you probably haven't felt what it's like to be around someone whose stronger than you and really wants something sexual from you. 2) Some men are overly aggressive. Imagine you're alone with someone who you'd prefer not to sleep with but wants to have sex with you. Imagine now that that person is stronger than you and might not hold back. You can't tell which person will hold back and which wont -- so you're forced to be weary of all of them. 3) Some men will stalk and rape. It doesn't matter that you're a decent citizen. You may even be the type to help an old lady across the street. There are some men who will do awful things. You're in a category of people who do awful things. So even if you're not going to do awful things, a woman must be weary that you might. The real curve ball of the situation however, is that woman want an authoritative, confident man. Combining the docileness described above with confidence is a fascinatingly complicated pursuit. The docileness definitely comes first. |
Mark Oates
Member #1,146
March 2001
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Edgar Reynaldo said: Disc 1 1 Fearless - Taylor Swift Disc 2 1 Love Story - Taylor Swift Disc 3 1 The Girl I Left Behind - Pete Seeger Dude. There's your problem right there. Music shapes the way you think. You need some of this: Best hip-hop album ever made. -- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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Edgar Reynaldo said: Good music is a good gift. That's it, I know why she's mad at you. She works for the Music Publishers Association and felt betrayed that you copied music without paying for it. Perhaps buy and send her a copy of "100 Greatest Love Songs" as a gesture of goodwill Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002
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Something else to discuss: Let's suppose that your letters weren't creepy, sickly and pitiable, and instead you were the very personification of charm. Let's also suppose that you were able to convince her to leave her husband. Do you think this would be acceptable? Personally I find the act of going after a married woman as something absolutely loathsome. I've seen men who I've respected, men who should have known better, pursue married woman and cause broken families, and no end of pain and bitterness. Invariably they have managed to skew their perspective on the situation into something that makes their actions justifiable. So yes, I confess that I take some satisfaction in seeing your attempt at this fall flat on its face. If we then couple this with the fact that you broke up with her by ignoring her, which in my books is a particularly nasty type of emotional abuse, then you'll have to forgive me for having zero sympathy for you.
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miran
Member #2,407
June 2002
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As usual I'm late for this and I don't even have time to read the whole thread, but from what I did read (including the actual letters you posted in one of the replies) it looks to me like you managed to do the exact opposite of what you intended. Look at all this from her perspective. After all those years maybe she still thinks of you from time to time, or maybe she doesn't. Maybe she regretted the fact that it didn't happen for you two, maybe she didn't. Either way your letters convinced her it was actually a good thing you broke up with her because you turned out to be a creepy stalker kind of guy. She may be disappointed with you if she still had good memories of you, but most of all I she's now releived she dodged a bullet and is glad she didn't end up with you. On top of that she's also concerned about her safety and the safety of her family, ergo the threats with police. You should let it go. Even if there was a chance for you to come to terms with her, appologize for your actions and get some closure, you fucked it all up with those letters. Accept that and let it go. -- |
Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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miran said: appologize for your actions and get some closure Don't say that, you know what's going to happen: He starts to write a simple one line letter saying "sorry, I didn't realise I was causing distress, goodbye", and ends up with a 10 page dissection of his three letters, some pictures of him saying sorry and a dvd mix-up of goodbye songs (followed by a 2 year internet ban and 3 months in jail) Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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Matthew Leverton said: Sounds like good material for a new thread. Nah. |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Neil Walker said: Don't say that, you know what's going to happen: You misread what miran wrote... |
miran
Member #2,407
June 2002
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Matthew Leverton said: You misread what miran wrote... Ah, yes, punctuation. To make it clear, I'm not saying he should appologize to get closure, I'm saying he missed that chance already. I did eventually read all the replies. Someone up there has the perfect advise: burn everything and forget about her! And don't talk about it either, especially don't try to let her know about it, just do it. Destroy everything that has anything to do with her (I'm sure Matthew can easily delete this thread as well if asked nicely) and never think about her again. -- |
van_houtte
Member #11,605
January 2010
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You should listen to me, I'm actually a good life coach. Next time, don't give it all away all at once, leave some for the imagination and let yourself be mysterious. You f0cked up by tellling her WAAAAYYY too much. A nice casual card with little information, 'just saying hi' type of card would have done the trick. You tried to romance a (what I think) happily married woman thru a letter...letters are never the right approach. If you had taken the mysterious and friendly path you might have gotten further, possibly into the friend zone. Or who knows elsewhere. Next time you have any such issues think twice and click on the link in my signature. It is better the try and fail than it is not to not try and fail. At least you tried and I give props to that. Quote: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” - Theodore Roosevelt
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OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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Disclamer: Haven't actually read the letters and the bamccaig's wall of text. Edgar Reynaldo said:
Short answers to all three are no. But I'll elaborate a bit more. It's not wrong to contact somebody after 15 years, it's not unreasonable to ask for forgiveness, but you have to do it the right way: Matthew Leverton said: If you must send a letter, then it should be very short:"Hey, I came across a picture of us while going through some old stuff. I want to apologize for the way I left things. Hope you are doing well. If you wish to get in touch with me, here's my contact info." So, now please pause for a moment, try to get some perspective on what you've done. I wouldn't call it stalking, but certainly those letters were weird and creepy, though you've meant no harm. As Evert, I think, pointed out you've made a mistake everybody did, most of us in puberty, however it can happen later. What is now important is to take a lesson from that and try not to repeat that mistake:
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Striker
Member #10,701
February 2009
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Thanks for this wonderful thread, i had a good time reading it (rolling on the floor laughing) And i have the solution for you, Edgar! Follow these steps: - undertake the travel these 1000 miles to her. - look at her. I bet you don`t want her anymore. Because most womens change a lot in 15 years and anyway you are in love with your picture in mind and not with the real person. - if you still want her you can try to give her a 1000 dollar diamond ring.
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van_houtte
Member #11,605
January 2010
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Dustin Dettmer said: It doesn't work to approach a girl in the same sort of way you'd like to be approached by a girl. We go through our lives in a very different way than them. 1) Women are smaller than men. If it came down to a fight, you'd win. This might seem trivial but you've been bigger your whole life -- you probably haven't felt what it's like to be around someone whose stronger than you and really wants something sexual from you. 2) Some men are overly aggressive. Imagine you're alone with someone who you'd prefer not to sleep with but wants to have sex with you. Imagine now that that person is stronger than you and might not hold back. You can't tell which person will hold back and which wont -- so you're forced to be weary of all of them. 3) Some men will stalk and rape. It doesn't matter that you're a decent citizen. You may even be the type to help an old lady across the street. There are some men who will do awful things. You're in a category of people who do awful things. So even if you're not going to do awful things, a woman must be weary that you might.The real curve ball of the situation however, is that woman want an authoritative, confident man. Combining the docileness described above with confidence is a fascinatingly complicated pursuit. The docileness definitely comes first. wow, perspective. There's plenty of wisdom in there. ----- Sometimes you may have to send 3-4 messages |
jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009
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Edgar Reynaldo said:
Disc 1 Are you sure this wasn't the letter that went with Disc 1 Fearless In The Dark With You, you can Count On My Love. I'm With You 4 Real!. I Just Don't Think I'll Ever Get Over You because your beauty is like a City Of Blinding Lights . Everything Reminds Me Of [You] , even the blinding lights of the city. I remember it like it was yesterday. Sparks flew when we met. It was Crazy Love making (as I'm sure you recall), but it was a good way to Release our passion for each other. My Phantom Limb as you called it still longs for you. I hope that last statement did not cause you to Freak Out, it's just that, this Mad Dog's still got 20 / 20 vision on you. It Feels So Good to finally express how I really feel to you after...you know... oh and before I forget, I still have your Pink Cashmere. Maybe if we meet up I can give it back to you. Agui GUI API -> https://github.com/jmasterx/Agui |
Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001
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type568 said: Think with your head, not with your dickhead. Reminds me of an episode from Frasier, where Frasier went on and on how it would be quite acceptable for him as an adult to date another adult, though she was married to someone else and bla bla. Niles interrupts him with: "Sorry, Frasier, what were you saying? I couldn't hear you because your penis talked so loud." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest. |
Dizzy Egg
Member #10,824
March 2009
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I thought this thread was creepy, and then I read the songs you put on the CD's; now I'M thinking of calling the cops!
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Edgar Reynaldo said: And somehow, that is a more mature response than "I'm fine, how are you? Please stop sending me letters, I just can't be friends with you again."? Why would she say "I'm fine, how are you?" just before telling you not to send her more letters? At any rate, can you really say you would just drop it if she replied in the manner you're suggesting she should have? |
Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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If she had asked me to stop trying to contact her, I would have, with at most one more reply to acknowledge her request. I do actually respect her wishes, once I actually know what they are... @Dizzy Egg As to everyone who suggests I burn everything I own related to her, why would I do that? I may have royally fucked things up, but I don't resent her, and I don't want to destroy the few good memories I have of her just because things are broken now. I'm not the kind of person who can just forget someone they used to be with. My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
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