From this post, for example, it's obvious that you don't. Not even a little bit.

No-one, just like I pointed out in my previous post.

That pretty much sums up this thread.

Well you are right in a way. Not everyone will agree, and thus this is pointless. But there is a correct answer.

@bamccaig: Great video. That needs to be spread

Fuck that.

You want to promote a fictional entity (God, Vishnu, an "Intelligent Creator", the Flying Spaghetti Monster, whatever), fine, but:

• Give us a proper definition of your deity, otherwise we're talking about nothing

• You postulate the deity, so it's your burden of proof. Not the Atheist's.

Also:
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Evolution is happening, it is observable, falsifyable, and comes with a truckload of evidence to support it.

IMHO thinking of God/... as the creator is an obvious anthropomorphism. It's a bit related to idolatry.

'Making' something is a fundamental part of human life. So people made their gods (little statues etc.) and, in their anthropocentrism, thought that they were also made by some big creator, because they couldn't imagine anything else.

I think there really is a deep religious meaning in understanding that we were not 'made', that we differ from the products of our hands. That's the whole point of monotheism after all. If you 'pray' to a thing made by you, you become partially enslaved (modern example: money).

A good part of the bible is about idolatry etc., but this book has a lot of different layers. It is a formidable piece of world literature. But a mindset of interpreting it literally is exactly what Jesus criticized, if I remember correctly (scribes, teachers of the law).

Eewww! No! But I'd shake his hand.

[EDIT]

Googling for him is quite informative.

[EDIT2]

I found this little gem wandering around the links:

We have no doubt that the Aztec beliefs were nuts. I wonder what the future will say about Christianity.“Why,” I asked the Aztec priest, “Do you intend to cut that man’s heart out?”

“Because we must.” He said.

“Why?”

“Because if we don’t sacrifice him to the Sun God, the sun will not rise tomorrow and our world will surely end.” His voice had a slight British accent, like a character in an old Hollywood biblical epic.

“Really. How do you know this?”

“Because we’ve made a sacrifice every day, and the sun has never failed to rise,” he said, looking at me as if he were talking to a particularly dense child. ”It’s obvious.”

“Why don’t you just see what happens if you let the man live?”

“We can’t take that chance. Would you risk the end of the world?”

“But it’s a man’s life…”

“No. He will not really die. All death is an illusion. He will merely move on to the next life. No doubt he’ll be happier there.”

“I suppose he will be, if people won’t kill him there to make the sun rise.”

[EDIT3]

Wait! I have seen this Randi before!

I especially notice how often Jesus is depicted as a blond blue-eyed metrosexual appearing guy, not as a man in the Middle East who blended in so well that Judas had to point him out to the Roman soldiers, let alone a skinny weakling who had a very physically demanding means of working for a living.

Of course not! He looked much more like Osama bin Laden. Probably a good bit shorter.

[EDIT]

If I edit a post to change what was said (other than spelling errors) I always put a nice big [EDIT] in there. Nice of you to imply I'm a liar.

And you guys wonder why I deleted all my posts in the last thread. When I say I am done with the topic, that means I am done. But you keep quoting old posts.

I may end up deleting all my old posts again so it can truly be done.

You edit them and erase the content replaced by a <deleted> or maybe a dot.

Seriously, it was an interesting subject, but we've debated it to death, or at least I have.