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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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God I hope you didn't attempt to use any kind of FAT fs on a 1TB drive. That would be insane. -- |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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No, the restore partition doesn't give you an option for file system, you get NTFS and that's it. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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Arthur Kalliokoski said: Let me guess, you're now using a terabyte drive, right? Vista chokes on my I: & J: drives when trying to display the contents of a folder (1TB drive vs. the 320GB drive C: is on)
No...actually I have the same issue on two separate systems. On PC has a 500GB HD, an 80GB HD, and a 40GB HD. The 40GB drive is an IDE drive, the other two are SATA. On the laptop, it has only one drive which is 120GB SATA. It doesn't have any speed issues with starting up...it's extremely fast. It is faster for me to actually shutdown and restart than to use the hibernate feature....on both machines. Under XP and Vista, the hibernate feature was faster. I've also noticed that if I get impatient / in a hurry when rename a folder or file and open it right away Windows 7 gives me an error saying it can't find the "old folder/file name here" folder/file. I am getting the impression it's some sort of locking mechanism going on in the background. I've noticed that Vista and Windows 7 copy files to the user's temp directory before making them available at their "real" destination...maybe something there is causing the slowdown. It's just really annoying though. Thomas Fjellstrom said: God I hope you didn't attempt to use any kind of FAT fs on a 1TB drive. That would be insane.
Yeah really! What would the file table be like? Something like 1GB? -- |
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Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Fat can address up to 2TB on drives with 512 byte sectors. On the general topic, are there any serious players competing to be the filing system of choice for removable media once it hits the terrabytes? Presumably Microsoft recognise that people will one day want to be able to format SD-type cards of that sort of capacity and use them with both a Windows machine and a non-Microsoft peripheral such as a digital video camera? [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
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Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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Thomas Harte said: On the general topic, are there any serious players competing to be the filing system of choice for removable media once it hits the terrabytes?
I don't think so, but I just created an ext2 partition on an external harddrive that needed to store a 4GB+ sized file (and I only cared about whether the file was available from Linux). Some sort of readily available (dare I say "open"?) and supported (that's where ext2 doesn't cut it) filesystem seem highly overdue... Maybe it's time to do another check for ext2 drivers for OS X... |
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MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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MS is creating a new FAT format for this use. Not sure of non MS OS will be able to use it soon though. --- |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I thought linux already had an exFAT driver. Could just be my imagination though. But a LOT of parties are interested in trying to move away from FAT due to the pattents. No idea if it will actually happen though, many device makers just don't care enough. -- |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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Oh, something else that seems strange in Windows 7... my touch pad driver's virtual scroll feature does not always work. I'm trying to recreate the issue...but seems random at the moment, other than the fact that Visual Studio Professional was running. The driver itself actually picks up the finger's location and seems to be sending the scroll data as I can see it in the driver's configuration window...but Windows doesn't seem to be getting the messages. Strange. -- |
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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My 1.5TB hard drives work fine in Win 7, just as they did in Vista. Thomas Fjellstrom said: I'm not so sure about that. Ubuntu even has its own forums (does ms? ). Then theres places like linuxforums, linuxhelp, linuxquestions, etc. Duh, of course MS has their own forums. Also, whenever I've had a crazy Windows problem, I've gotten people to at least try to help me. Having crazy Linux problems? Your posts get ignored, people don't read your whole post and make irrelevant remarks, and generally act like they're better than you because they think they know more. Given Windows vs. Apple vs. Linux communities, I'll take a Windows community any day, they seem to be the most level headed. Most Apple communities are full of Apple fanboys, and most Linux communities are filled with zealots who expect everything to be handed free on a platter (and people like the douchebag who made X-Chat for Windows shareware, breaking GPL, and somehow gets away with it). |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I mostly disagree with most of what you said there. but this isn't the time to get into a flamewar -- |
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le_y_mistar
Member #8,251
January 2007
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BAF said: Also, whenever I've had a crazy Windows problem, I've gotten people to at least try to help me. Having crazy Linux problems? Your posts get ignored, people don't read your whole post and make irrelevant remarks, and generally act like they're better than you because they think they know more. Given Windows vs. Apple vs. Linux communities, I'll take a Windows community any day, they seem to be the most level headed. Most Apple communities are full of Apple fanboys, and most Linux communities are filled with zealots who expect everything to be handed free on a platter (and people like the douchebag who made X-Chat for Windows shareware, breaking GPL, and somehow gets away with it). I agree with that, support for windows is much more level headed, the other problem that linux dorks dont get is that people most people have lives and dont want to spend a billion years understanding the little intricacies to get something relatively simple working (i.e.: wireless). Linux dorks, stop blaming vendors. The end user does not care about excuses, we want results. ----------------- |
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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I've gotten help with stupid easy stuff on Linux forums. When I was trying to get APM working on my laptop, I hit several roadblocks. I ended up with several threads with different "hard" issues over the course of a few weeks, and they all either had no replies, trolling, or totally unrelated suggestions. I only got the "buy new hardware" line once, surprisingly. At least OS X is pretty standard, hardware wise, so there's not too many issues, so the OS X geared forums tend to be pretty helpful after you sift through the fanboyism. Hackintosh is probably among the best support I've received from a group, surprisingly. |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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I've had some luck with Linux forums, but even my friend who introduced me to Linux gives me the "read the man pages" line whenever I ask for advice. I would like to eventually, but I'd rather get stuff working first and be productive. -- |
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that one too, the tools who take the time to type out a RTFM rant when they could have spent less time and given the answer. |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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Exactly...goes back to my original idea that if you have nothing constructive to say when a question is asked, then just don't post anything. -- |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Don Freeman said: Exactly...goes back to my original idea that if you have nothing constructive to say when a question is asked, then just don't post anything. Exactly... Its better than using the same tired arguments about something you probably haven't even had happen in some time -- |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I've read the entire Windows manual. It's only like four pages long. |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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Matthew Leverton said: I've read the entire Windows manual. It's only like four pages long.
I remember back in the day when computers came with like 20 books, and the books for DOS and Windows where like mini novels. Does that make me old? -- |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Don Freeman said: Does that make me old?
Yup. I still have a combined manual for MSDOS 6.22/Windows 3.11 though, so you're not the only old one. It's a good sized brick too. I liked the manuals that came with othe original IBM PCs. They were in ring-binders. I actually still have a few pages form the IBM PC-DOS 2.0 manual floating around, and sometimes still refer to the Character Set table from it.
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Don Freeman said: I remember back in the day when computers came with like 20 books, and the books for DOS and Windows where like mini novels. Does that make me old? Once you skip past the self congratulation pages of how great Windows is, you're left with 3 or 4 pages of useful informantion. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Schyfis
Member #9,752
May 2008
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I believe we still have a Windows 3.11 box somewhere in our basement. I'll have to look around. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ |
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Can FAT even handle a drive that big?! 
Sometimes we have many things to work on and a quick answer is all that is needed. It doesn't even have to be the full answer...just a point in the right direction is better than a damn RTFM comment. 
