Shaw's Nightmare

Shaw's Nightmare

Micheal Muniko

Member #10,953

May 2009

Ahh, thanks for clearing this up.

I will destroy you Kariba -- Steel
I will destroy you Steel -- Kariba

Martin Kalbfuß

Member #9,131

October 2007

Some other maybe helpfull infos. I'm working with FreeDOS. To produce something usefull with dos, it's good to know how the mashine is working. DOS is easy, but doesn't support much hardware. You have to do this yourself. This is only possible if you can program the mashine directly. Get NASM and try to build some assembler programs. You will learn a lot about CPUs, Memory, the BIOS and the DOS interrupts.
I did this, too. It's difficult but very interesting.

http://remote-lisp.spdns.de -- my server side lisp interpreter
http://www.nongnu.org/gm2/ -- Modula-2 alias Pascal++

Micheal Muniko

Member #10,953

May 2009

I have an idea!

Like Murder Death Kill (MDK) we bundle both a Windows version and a DOS version.

I will destroy you Kariba -- Steel
I will destroy you Steel -- Kariba

BAF

Member #2,981

December 2002

Tobias Dammers said:

General rule of thumb: Never trust an OS made by Microsoft before SP2 is out.

And the other general rule of thumb, never trust anything released on Linux if the version ends in .0 .1 or .2. If it is by the KDE team, better wait until .4.

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Arthur Kalliokoski

Second in Command

February 2005

BAF said:

never trust anything released ~~on Linux~~ if the version ends in .0 .1 or .2

FTFY

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

GullRaDriel

Member #3,861

September 2003

Micheal Muniko said:

Like Murder Death Kill (MDK) we I bundle both a Windows version and a DOS version.

Fixed.

I am impressed by the amount of patience and help that you all guys (especially Lenny and Tobias) gave in that thread.

Micheal, re-read the whole subject. Read it until you get the truth facing you:

you are a beginner at programming.
No one will do the work for you, or even contribute more than what they did.
DOS is DEAD !

"Code is like shit - it only smells if it is not yours"
Allegro Wiki, full of examples and articles !!

Timorg

Member #2,028

March 2002

@Micheal Muniko: You want/ed people to help develop your game in their own time. Just recently I have been asking for testing help, all they have to do is download the program and run it. Count yourself lucky to even get this much help. Even when you make it simple and easy, people still may not help. What your asking for help with is neither simple or easy, so good luck with this.

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Niunio

Member #1,975

March 2002

Micheal Muniko said:

What advise will you give me while programming a 3d engine?

Learn to do it yourself. It's hard, I know. I'm working on a bind to use Allegro in Pascal for nearly 3 years and nobody had interest to help me until a month ago... ::)

[P.S] Thank Martin Kalbfuß.

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LennyLen

Member #5,313

December 2004

Micheal Muniko said:

What advise will you give me while programming a 3d engine?

Learn OpenGL. Of course, this means you'll have to abandon DOS.

SiegeLord

Member #7,827

October 2006

IIRC, AllegroGL provides OpenGL support for DOS... hah.

"For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow."-Ecclesiastes 1:18
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Arthur Kalliokoski

Second in Command

February 2005

Software rendering via MESA

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Thomas Fjellstrom

Member #476

June 2000

Arthur Kalliokoski said:

Software rendering via MESA

Last I checked that was provided by an Allegro 3 driver.

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Tobias Dammers

Member #2,604

August 2002

Micheal Muniko said:

What advise will you give me while programming a 3d engine?

Don't do it now.
Practice a lot, make lots of small games (really simple things) until you can come up with a simple 2D game that runs smoothly, has decent gameplay, and generally 'works', all that up to the point that someone would be willing to pay a small amount of money for it (say, 5 $).
After that, learn how 3D works. Our brain is not made for 3D thinking really (we're more a 2.5D kind of species, living on the ground and all that), so you'll encounter things you can't easily imagine. Then make some simple 3D games.
Once you have all that experience, you'll be ready to try making a flexible 3D 'engine', and with some luck, you'll be able to avoid the mistakes you've made before.
If you're really really talented and a fast learner, you may get to this point a year from now, but I expect it to take longer than that.

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Micheal Muniko

Member #10,953

May 2009

GullRaDriel said:

you are a beginner at programming.

No, WRONG! I already know Basic and Pascal!!

GullRaDriel said:

No one will do the work for you, or even contribute more than what they did.

explodes

GullRaDriel said:

DOS is DEAD !

Yes it is.

I will destroy you Kariba -- Steel
I will destroy you Steel -- Kariba

GClaudiu

Member #10,728

February 2009

Oh man, you really don't get it, do you?

Bunch of tutorials

count

Member #5,401

January 2005

Micheal Muniko said:

I already know Basic and Pascal!!

Knowing a language does not mean one can program.
There is more to that.
Know how to write maintainable well re-factored code, know the good coding habits, the different coding patterns.
This has nothing to do with knowing a langauge. It's a whole differente deal.

Learning a language is easy. It can be done in a couple of days.
Learning how to code is difficult and takes a LOT of time.

I'm not saying that you can't code, just that your argument is crap.

Thomas Harte

Member #33

April 2000

Just as computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes, programming is no more about knowing language semantics than brain surgery is about understanding the function of neurons.

EDIT: beyond that, I guess I second all the advice above. Programming skills come with time and nobody ever manages their dream project straight out of the gate. In addition, people are not going to want to collaborate with someone with no reputation and nothing to evidence likely success. So hanging around, practicing your craft by working on smaller projects and, where possible, helping other people are all great ideas.

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