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What are your political ideologies?
OICW
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November 2003
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I don't have any ideology. I just simply don't care about politics. Most of the are there only for money. What is more I'm quite disgusted with the state of politics that is prevalent in the Czech Republic.

Those from EU probably know that our government was shot down by opposition though they've agreed not to do that during EU presidency and were surprised that the government didn't get trust of the parliament. What the heck? When I don't want something to happen I don't attempt it.

Fortunatelly I was unable to attend general elections last time, because I wasn't old enough (few days saved me from that). All in all I tend to vote for the least evil. There are five major parties. I won't vote for communists so no votes for them and socialists. I don't like Christian democrats and same can be said for Green party - if you want ecology then not with them. So only one party remains and I'm not happy with them either, but at least they are the smallest evil.

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Timorg
Member #2,028
March 2002

If there is no one worth voting for, you should still go vote, just donkey it and put no-one down. You send a message saying that no-one was worth voting for, but if they were you would have put them down. Not voting says you don't care, donkey voting says you cared enough to go to the voting place, but didn't feel it was worth voting for someone.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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There's an idea! Have check boxes for all the candidates to be filled in if you don't want them to fill the position! Checking all the boxes indicates you don't want any of them.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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I don't know what I am.

alethiophile
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December 2007
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US, on the political compass (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) very libertarian and somewhat liberal.

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Martin Kalbfuß
Member #9,131
October 2007
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Germany, green left.

I vote for my party mostly because they are green. On the right they are still give a fuck about the environment, which is really stupid. I don't understand why.

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May 2008
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I don't know what I am.

Neil's sig said:

I am Mildly Annoying Man

Problem solved.

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Chris Katko
Member #1,881
January 2002
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On a serious level, my political views have been dulled to a more moderate centrist position. Although, I definitely believe this budget deficit has to dealt with immediately. It's already swelled to astronomical proportions. (Thanks Bush!)

I believe strongly in the potential power of the individual. I'm also typically anti-authority, because I've rarely been on the positive-side of authority's actions. So I lean heavily libertarian.

However, on the other side of the coin, people are fucking stupid. And when given complete authority over their lives, they basically just die. They're retarded apes with desk jobs. So I like that the government steps in to stop people like that. But on the other hand of that, if the government stopped helping people, those people would either die or learn to be responsible again.

So since I can see how the argument between liberty and security can sway back and forth twenty times over in the search of the best outcome, I haven't an answer for it right now.

But definitions of what it means to live aside: I think there should be programs to encourage everyone to be something. Programs that bring people off the streets, and get them jobs. Programs that take mundane nothings that watch TV all day, and shows them how to empower themselves. And on another separate-but-related idea: I think schools should focus on how to deal with problems in life more and adding geometric shapes less. Increase the terms if they must, but children these days are absolutely bankrupt when it comes to any knowledge of functioning in a society (especially that morality exists for a functional purpose). And the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you can read and write if you end up addicted and shooting yourself.

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Kibiz0r
Member #6,203
September 2005
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I think schools should focus on how to deal with problems in life more and adding geometric shapes less.

Quoted for truth.

People are naturally curious, and will seek out knowledge in the things that interest them. All you have to do is provide a stable enough platform for that personal growth to happen, and encourage it along the way.

Schools right now just cram a textbook down your throat and see what you shit out. That's a completely wrong approach.

decepto
Member #7,102
April 2006
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I took the quiz here.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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I refuse to subscribe to ideological package deals.

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Indeterminatus
Member #737
November 2000
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Austria, tests usually place me center to center-right. Even though I don't feel represented well by any of the parties, I went to the election because not voting in Austria means supporting the small, extremely right-winged ones.

If any of you followed what was going on in our country, it was ridiculous; the very idea of people who claim to be able to make rational decisions for the fate of millions acting all childish and calling each other names (without any grounds) and blatantly refusing to say something (even though they do tend to talk a lot) is pathetic in my eyes. Oh well, enough of the rant, doesn't change anything anyway. At the moment, I'm really fed up.

Next election, I will vote for the party whose prime candidate argues rationally. I do have a feeling that I'll end up voting for the least evil again.

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Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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axilmar said:

1) free market: yes, and without regulations.
2) social security: yes, absolutely.
3) government: as small as possible, but not smaller that #2 can't happen.
4) taxation: as small as possible, but not smaller that #2 can't happen.
5) taxes: proportional to profit; no exceptions.
6) bureaucracy: none whatsoever.

You can't have 1 and 2 at the same time.

My political views:
- Restrict markets, only allow freedom where it makes sense. A free market works well for some things, but not at all for others. Simply removing restrictions does not automatically create a healthy balance; an economy that relies on growth cannot be truly stable; what's good for an individual (or a company) is not necessarily good for the community.
- Strong social security, high taxes. Seriously, I want higher taxes. Much higher, especially on top incomes and luxury goods. The more tax income a government has, the more can be done with the money, which in turn is good for the community as a whole. I want a strong government, but not in the sense that it poses lots of restrictions, rather in the sense that it is financially powerful to be able to finance important community projects and facilities. I'm absolutely for free education, free healthcare and free public transport.
- Astronomic salaries for politicians. They should be doing it for the money, not the power. And if we pay them enough, maybe we'll get the best people for the job instead of the most power-hungry.
- A cap on personal income, or at least extreme taxes on absurdly high incomes. I'm not against higher incomes for hard work, but at some point (say, a hundred times the average), things get disgusting. Someone who makes a hundred dollars a minute, seriously, what's the point?
- Heavily restrict advertising. Advertising binds valuable resources (especially creative humans) that could be of better use for the common good doing productive things, and it helps in selling products nobody really needs, again wasting valuable resources. While it is true that a single company can gain a huge benefit from advertising, this benefit is relative, and if all companies advertise equally, their gains cancel each other out - at the customer's cost, because all that advertising needs to be paid for.
- Disallow media to be profit-oriented companies. Media are an important force in a democracy, and represent maybe more power than the other three forces (executive, judicative, legislative) together at the moment - how can I vote for the right person if the media don't give me a good picture about who the candidates are?

I guess all that makes me a socialist, huh?

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amber
Member #6,783
January 2006
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The more tax income a government has, the more can be done with the money, which in turn is good for the community as a whole.

That's operating on the (rather large, and rather flawed in my opinion) assumption that governments will always spend their money in the best interests of the community as a whole. :-/

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Astronomic salaries for politicians. They should be doing it for the money, not the power. And if we pay them enough, maybe we'll get the best people for the job instead of the most power-hungry.

Or just the greediest, instead. :P

Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Astronomic salaries for politicians. They should be doing it for the money, not the power. And if we pay them enough, maybe we'll get the best people for the job instead of the most power-hungry.

I mean absolutely no personal disrespect to you when I say this but: That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

I'm sure the $30,000,000 CEOs get at AIG would ensure the best possible people are making the leading decisions. ... Oh, I'm sorry, I just vomited.

Politicians should be living in poverty. Status, prestige, and class should all be removed from the positions. They should live (at best) with the median income of the people they represent. If they want more money, they better raise the median income of their represented class. If they're no longer seen as "Gods among men", the position will no longer have the lure of greedy war-monger fools, and instead that of the volunteer. The people willing to sacrifice of themselves so that they community may benefit.

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Goalie Ca
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July 2002
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How come everyone on the interwebs is a libertarian.

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alethiophile
Member #9,349
December 2007
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Goalie Ca said:

How come everyone on the interwebs is a libertarian.

I think that first, there's a correlation between being a libertarian and being the sort of person who programs computers for fun (technical/creative, the 'hacker' mindset, is somewhat hostile to authority), and there's certainly a correlation between that and hanging out on A.cc or similar.

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Mark Oates
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March 2001
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Goalie Ca said:

How come everyone on the interwebs is a libertarian.

It's because if you reorganize the letters of one word you can get the other.

haha, made you look.

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Bob
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September 2000
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Seriously, I want higher taxes.

You're always free to write a check to your country's Treasury, at your heart's content. You can even donate all you have in the interest of paying down the national debt taken out in your and your children's names.

But if what you want is really higher taxes for other people (but of course, not yourself - you're taxed sufficiently as is), then that's a different story.

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SiegeLord
Member #7,827
October 2006
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I'm for benevolent dictatorship. Anything that takes the power away from the mob is good.

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alethiophile
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December 2007
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SiegeLord said:

I'm for benevolent dictatorship. Anything that takes the power away from the mob is good.

The problem with that is that it can quickly and without warning turn into malevolent dictatorship, and one malevolent dictator can do much more harm than is worth risking for the benefit of having a stable government beforehand (see Hitler).

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December 2000
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gnolam said:

I refuse to subscribe to ideological package deals.

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Timorg
Member #2,028
March 2002

As well as Hitler, consider Pol Pot, to me he is much scarier. He tortured and exterminated 1-3 million of his own citizens, taking out aproximately a third of his population.

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SiegeLord
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October 2006
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The problem with that is that it can quickly and without warning turn into malevolent dictatorship, and one malevolent dictator can do much more harm than is worth risking for the benefit of having a stable government beforehand (see Hitler).

Better than being ruled by the mob, imho. Plus, I don't think Hitler was benevolent at any point: there is a difference at helping a nation to suit your own quest at world domination, and helping a nation for the sake of helping the nation.

Timorg said:

As well as Hitler, consider Pol Pot, to me he is much scarier. He tortured and exterminated 1-3 million of his own citizens, taking out aproximately a third of his population.

Same for this one. Fueling idealistic goals with no regard for the populace is not a mark of benevolent dictatoship.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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SiegeLord said:

Plus, I don't think Hitler was benevolent at any point: there is a difference at helping a nation to suit your own quest at world domination,

Hitler actually believed what he was doing was "right" and for the best. He rationalized with propaganda, the ends justify the means. Sadly, the United States Government did the exact same thing in the 50's (which is still why my previous generation hates Russia and Communism as if they were inherently evil)

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