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CNBC Say "PCs" Need $600 Extra To Perform As Well As A Mac (Hahaha, n00bs)
bamccaig
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Jonatan Hedborg
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July 2004
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What the hell? :D Who said this? Photoshop ships with mac? ::) My god. The whole mac vs. pc thing is silly. I use both a PC and a mac daily, and they both have their advantages. Of course, one of the advantages of my macbook pro is that I didn't have to pay for it myself ;D

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Of course, one of the advantages of my macbook pro is that I didn't have to pay for it myself

macbooks are coming with a free... MACBOOK!!!! :o

Trent Gamblin
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April 2000
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Since when is Photoshop $140 dollars? (I know I know, it doesn't come with mac but still).

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Maybe this and the recent Endpoint Technology Associates report cancel each other out?

MiquelFire
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January 2003
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CNBC are the ones (well, BusinessWeek actually) who made the stupid claims. The link bam gives is from people smart enough to call it bullshit.

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Bob
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The other day, I heard a talking head on the radio make the claim that computers never go down in price.

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Ron Novy
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I once had to fix an old PowerBook... The owner was trading it for a PC laptop because the powerbook no longer turned on... At all! I did my best to repair it, but it was apparently more then just the power board that was damaged... Since I don't have software or hardware to transfer the old files to his new computer I told him he's basically on his own to find someone to do it... For repair, recovery of the hard disc and then the transfer of files to CD/DVD it came to about $300... Add in the cost of the powerbook and... epic failure! ::)

But that's only one PowerBook... I'm sure they're more durable and less expensive these days...

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Is anything in this list acurate?

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Schyfis
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So a Geek Squad visit is mandatory now for PC users?
I wonder where they got these statistics.

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Ron Novy
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March 2006
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Norton Anti-Virus is $39.99/yr or Norton 360 All-in-one is $79.99/yr and both drop in prize if you buy 2 years at once... But you could always go with AVG or another FREE anti-virus.

Multimedia software ??? Like ummm.. Media player... FREE!

Photoshop $699 for regular and $999 for the extended version! It sure as hell isn't free with any Mac! So it's not relevant...

Video Editing: Like Uhmm... Microsoft Movie Maker??? FREE!

Music software... Again. ??? FREE!

Geek Squad? ~ $129.99 or $149.99... But why include it?

You see that CNBC! I just did more research in about 4 minuets then your sorry ass 'tech' guy ever did... Bad reporting! GO SUCK IT CNBC. And you can quote me on that.

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count
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What is a Geek Squad? ???

Mark Oates
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CNN has a "tech guy" too that does a spot every now and then. The guy's just as clueless. It's as if their "experts" have no actual understanding of computers and their use, rather, they just looked up some stuff about computers on the internet and reported on it.

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Ron Novy
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Their experts knowledge of computers is questionable, but I'm sure they could name off each and every sponsor of the program...

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The geek squad has gotten more and more expensive since they started doing a lot more and paying the employees a lot more... Their more like vampires if you ask me...

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Mark Oates
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Ron Novy said:

Their experts knowledge of computers is questionable, but I'm sure they could name off each and every sponsor of the program...

like... Apple? :P

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Timorg
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March 2002

Well I have never edited video short of removing adverts, which I did with nero. Everything else I use free software to do it. So that's a saving of $623, minus $70 for nero.

I'm not even sure what a Geek Squad Visit is, so I am guessing I don't need it.

So I save $553, where the PC is at least that much cheaper, (comparing dell and apple.)

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Ron Novy
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March 2006
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And if you compare a standard Apple laptop with a PC of the same hardware what do you see? About 50% off the price and... duh duh duh duh... freedom to do whatever you like with that extra money :P

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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He didn't even mention Linux. All the software is free! You only have to pay for the hardware! It's the best deal around!

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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It's nice to see that Allegro.cc is no more free of disinformation than CNBC (EDIT: or BusinessWeek).

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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If the world were free of both Microsoft and Apple's recent advertising campaigns then I think it would be a much happier place. At least Microsoft dumped the Seinfeld/Gates and Mojave stuff very quickly, albeit to replace them with a cheap shot at the bloggers.

Neil Black
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October 2006
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Is anything in this list acurate?

I didn't find any spelling errors.

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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I didn't find any spelling errors.

That also is what I noted about Ron Novy's post.

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Ron Novy said:

Microsoft Movie Maker??? FREE!

It's crap though. But at least there are other, better, free alternatives.

Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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Let's see...
- Cheapest possible price: PC wins.
- Price for comparable hardware configuration: Hard to compare, because OS X isn't sold separately, so there is no barebone price for a Mac
- Design: Matter of taste (but design addicts are often Apple fanboys)
- Usability: Matter of taste, and what you're used to (in my experience, most non-technical users tend to prefer OS X once they have gotten used to it)
- Shipped software: Matter of taste (my personal opinion is that anything a Mac ships with outperforms the PC equivalents by an order of magnitude)
- Available software: PC wins (unless you absolutely need Logic or other mac-only software)
- OS security: Mac wins (using a default configuration; Windows is probably on par if heavy measures are taken, but this takes time and effort)
- Compatible hardware: PC wins
- Maintainability: Mac wins (the OS tends to have very few issues, and doesn't need much maintenance at all - in fact, I have yet to encounter an issue)
- Google Troubleshootability: PC wins
- Installation effort: Mac wins (open box, plug in, enter personal data, go - 5 minutes max)

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