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Goalie Ca
Member #2,579
July 2002
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Heheh.. i love that. I told someone something like that. He should have known better too because he was a math major. Sometimes they miss simple things like irrational numbers...

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Jeff Bernard
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December 2005
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When will we have TINT?

TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not...

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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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Bruce Perry: Western's ACM group has that comic on their Facebook page.

BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not...

You mean TINT is not TINT is not TINT is not.... ?

StevenVI
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July 2000
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I've seen that comic before, but I do not understand it, given that I do not know off the top of my head an approximation to the equation.

It is quite possible for an irrational number to have many zeros in succession, which thus would cause a computer to approximate it at 20. (I can prove this, but I think it is obvious.)

Interesting, though, that trying to put the equation into kcalc makes it crash.

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Jeff Bernard
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December 2005
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You mean TINT is not TINT is not TINT is not...

No, I was merely expanding the current name, which is already TINT.

TINS =>
TINS is not Speedhack =>
TINS is not TINS is not Speedhack =>
TINS is not TINS is not TINS is not Speedhack =>
...

etcetera.

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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That doesn't work. The acronym doesn't recurse that way.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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The acronym doesn't recurse that way.

Indeed.

TINS == Tins Is Not Speedhack

notice how Tins isn't an acronym in the expanded form, so it can't recurse.

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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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TINT could recurse that way, however, if we wanted it to.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Sure, but why would we want to? :P

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Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

Given the definition

TINS -> TINS is not SpeedHack

It recurses infinitely as follows:

TINS
-> TINS is not SpeedHack
-> TINS is not SpeedHack is not SpeedHack
-> TINS is not SpeedHack is not SpeedHack is not SpeedHack
-> ...

This cannot be varied. There is just one infinite expansion.

TINT, on the other hand, has two definitions:

TINT is not TINS
TINT is not TINT

It therefore recurses as follows:

TINT
-> TINT is not TINT
-> TINT is not TINT is not TINT
-> TINT is not TINS is not TINT is not TINT
-> TINT is not TINS is not SpeedHack is not TINT is not TINT

or

TINT
-> TINT is not TINS
-> TINT is not TINS is not SpeedHack
-> TINT is not TINS is not TINS is not SpeedHack
-> TINT is not TINS is not SpeedHack is not TINS is not SpeedHack
-> TINT is not TINS is not SpeedHack is not TINS is not SpeedHack is not SpeedHack

As you can see, there are many possible routes of expansion. There is a whole infinite tree of infinite expansions.

I vote for TINT to be founded.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Given the definition

Which is wrong, and silly.

TINS -> Tins Is Not Speedhack

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Jeff Bernard
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December 2005
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Well, if that's so correct then get amarillion to fix the title of the TINS site, because it clearly has "TINS Is Not Speedhack", which is an infinite expansion. Not saying that's a bad thing, it seems to work fine for PHP. I've never seen it written unacronymed (Tins) besides here.

To make TINT more unique you should have to put together two games that somehow intertwine during the 72 hour period. Sort of like two competitions running parallel.;D

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OICW
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November 2003
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That would mean you having two computers, and writing on two keyboards at once. ;)

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Albin Engström
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December 2006
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amarillion said:

Great, it seems there is some interest in the competition

Interest? This is the event of the year!

Jeff Bernard
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December 2005
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That would mean you having two computers, and writing on two keyboards at once.

Surely I'm not the only with both a desktop and laptop computer.

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OICW
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November 2003
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Neither do I, but still I need both hands on one keyboard. Not to mention that I'm not suited for this type of multitasking.

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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I can play co-op on Halo 3 by myself... dexterous toes. But they aren't quite up to the task of using a keyboard. Also, I don't play well that way.

GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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I can't be in this year, too much work. Sorry my baaaaad !

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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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I'll add an easter egg to my game in your honor.

GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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Heh, thanks ! :D

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amarillion
Member #940
January 2001
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I'm joining this year's competition myself, but I can't write code. So I'm hoping that someone pops up to do the code for me, which means getting the graphics and music and just needing to focus on the code.

This may be tough to pull off, most coders want to work on their own ideas.

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Oh, and this time too, if I get the chance, I'll try to help other people lacking music and graphics.

That plan will probably have a higher chance of success.

kenmasters1976
Member #8,794
July 2007

OK, I'm in... or so I think, 'cause I've yet to show up on the Entrants page.

StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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Who is FalseMasterJ? I am curious, because my sister goes to a Huntington University, though it isn't in West Virginia...

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Pedro Avelar Gontijo
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January 2005
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amarillion said:

This may be tough to pull off, most coders want to work on their own ideas.
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That plan will probably have a higher chance of success.

Is that so? I was hoping for better luck... I don't really mind, though, as long as you guys have good ideas. :)

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