This thread is fun, even for Allegro

First I was like "meh, female programmer... big deal" then "why is this thread not dead yet?", so I opened it and saw that Sara decided to join us (or not, depending on the "sign with a.cc or GTFO"-variable)... Interesting turn of events.

I'm not going to go into this discussion (again...), but you should feel free to ignore just about anything bammccaig says on the subject - it's not the general opinion (at least not where I come from).

Anyway, welcome to allegro.cc! I was going to say that you shouldn't expect special treatment because of your boobs gender, but I would be lying...

Also, I really hope this Peter Bol character is a joke, seriously... THIS IS NOT NEWS.

Wait a minute: Why are "Sara's" images linking from:

http://www.allegro.cc/images/rcache/c4af9af8a3e263c39d42ec9915055229.jpg

wtf is rcache?

Every image that you link to and it isn't from allegro.cc gets cached. I guess its for faster loading times and the fact that the external host can die and the images are still available.

BTW nonnus, stop trying to steer this thread off-topic!

bamcciag: except for all the men here don't like your "truth", either. You could say we're all females posing as males online, though, which would be a new twist on irony. Personally, I think you should just embrace the word "chauvinist".

bamccaig,
Thank for for the kind word. I understand your view point. I tend to be crazy fem about this concept and think I should be respected just as much naked as I am clothed. I do think that women should be allowed to wear whatever they want and not expect consequences.

I was homeschooled through most of my youth, but when I went to regular school my parents sent me to religious school. Once I was in a bible class and the teacher said something in the vain of "If a girl is wearing a bikini and she gets raped it is her fault." Even now thinking about that i want to punch that ignorant F in the face.

I, for one, don't think tastefully catching a few looks is a horrible thing. There have been many times I've been left out being a woman... not invited on glof outings, go go bar trips.... I know there is nothign dignified or noble about using sexuality to get ahead... but I wont let being uptight about things leave me behind. One of those "nudge nudge wink wink" type things that sometimes its easier to overlook.

See my thread. Before you fly off the handle though, take the time to read through the thread, or at least read my response to BAF below.

Originally when you used 'F' I assumed you were censoring fuck, but now I'm not so sure since it doesn't fit quite as well... What's the 'F' for?

There you go putting keystrokes in my keyboard buffer again.

Just because I have no sympathy doesn't mean I'm saying she is to blame. However, one could say she provoked it. Obviously rape is rape and I don't condone it, but I also don't recommend doing anything to provoke it. Shit can happen.

Notable posts of mine from that thread: [1][2]

I'm not reading that thread.

Because if I read that thread and gut you with a steak knife and wrap my Christmas tree with your intestines I'm not saying you are to blame, but one could say you did provoke it.

Fuck can be, and often is, used as a noun.

hmmm

New girl++

To paraphrase the doctor of love Chris Rock, "now, ladies, just because you dress a certain way, doesn't mean you are a certain way. This is true. But you have to help us, because it is damn confusing."

bamccaig , take another look at the XKCD cartoon 322 you so ironically linked to.
Kindly direct your attention to this section :

And then note that the general consensus here is :

Do NOT tell women not to complain when men look up their skirts. It's called respect , learn some.

So women should pretend to be men huh? Don't draw unnecessary attention to their gender? What does that mean? Get short haircuts and strap all their curves down flat? If a man can't do their job because there are female employees around , if I was boss , I'd fire them.

Girls like positive attention , not foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog.

Everyone likes to look good , that does not mean they want to be objectified.

In your opinion that puts part of the blame on her. That's bullshit.

If you don't have any sympathy for people who have been forcefully violated (it's not their fault in any case) , you might as well be condoning it. I personally know someone it's happened to and trust me , they're not the same anymore. When we were dating she always had to sleep away from the wall because she needed to feel in control (that's what I think anyway). She had problems with bitterness and resentment for many years after the fact. I do not appreciate your blatant ignorance and disrespect for women and ask that you kindly refrain from arguing it further.

To sum it up :

Hardly. All Sara did was use bamccaig's so-called line of reasoning to illustrate the fact that he was wrong.

Yeah, its been said, but there is a difference between dressing "nice", attractively and sexily. You're free to pick which ever one you want, but make sure you know which is which