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I think i figured out why i am the way i am.
HardTranceFan
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June 2006
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Geez , don't be such a doubter. We've already put people on the moon , we've built a space station. Is building a station on the moon or mars such a stretch? Not really.

Man never set foot on the moon. It was all done in a studio. It's the biggest fraud ever :P

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@picollo: While reading the posts, it came to mind that you may be thinking magnets, and then I read your post that said it. Keep in mind that you'll need very powerful magnetic forces to propell the space ship out of earths' gravitaional forces. This leads to 2 thoughts:

1. could this interfere with the electronics?
2. if the distance the magnetic force applies is short, would the initial shove created by the magnets be too great for the human body to handle?

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Jonatan Hedborg
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July 2004
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Something like a railgun has been "proposed", but it's not really viable for living cargo. Could be used to send supplies though...

alethiophile
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December 2007
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Railgun could work. According to Marshall Savage, if sufficiently large it could give into-space acceleration with only 10g at a time.

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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A while back I was studying the effects of a child's name on the way that child lives life .... This leads me to strongly beleave that the name you give a child will affect how the child turns out.

I don't understand; I've skimmed this whole thread and not seen one single joke about how he wants to abduct people and train them for a year in preperation for the Sayians' arrival ....

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alethiophile
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December 2007
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Nice. Or about how he's a flute's wimpy little brother.

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piccolo
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January 2003
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1. could this interfere with the electronics?
2. if the distance the magnetic force applies is short, would the initial shove created by the magnets be too great for the human body to handle?

@1.)
they have this stuff already i just plan on improving it.
To hover the unit the ionize the air around it to repel the unit.

@2.) it would pulse. like a hovering bird.

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alethiophile
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December 2007
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they have this stuff already i just plan on improving it.
To hover the unit the ionize the air around it to repel the unit.

???

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piccolo
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January 2003
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Dennis
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July 2003
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piccolo said:

I am making a space ship.

More power to you. I hope you can realize your dreams someday. Good luck.

Vanneto
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May 2007

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these two should explain it.

It sure does! ;D

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imaxcs
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November 2003

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It sure does! ;D

Hey, it's a video on youTube so it must be true! Anti-gravity for all! \o/

piccolo
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January 2003
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it was on this site as well but i cant find the link.
I cant help you beleave.
http://www.americanantigravity.com/

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Its not a hard concept to grasp

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imaxcs
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November 2003

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I cant help you beleave.

Yes, that's true, you can't! Because I have attended physics-lessons... :P

FrankyR
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April 2000
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I'm still having a bit of trouble understanding your idea.

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@2.) it would pulse. like a hovering bird.

When HardTranceFan said

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if the distance the magnetic force applies is short, would the initial shove created by the magnets be too great for the human body to handle?

I think he was saying that if you had one magnet on the ground and another on the ship, the force needed to propel the ship into orbit would be so great it would crush people inside. I don't understand how 'pulsing' makes any sense here. Would it shoot the ship up a bit and then let it fall and then shoot up again? Because that doesn't accomplish anything (except a fun ride :)).

Or, are you suggesting that the second magnet travels along with the ship? I suspect that's what you mean, and in that case I'll just quietly leave this thread...

Jonny Cook
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November 2003

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My name come from the Bible

I thought you got it from Dragon Ball Z...

The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.

Vanneto
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May 2007

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I thought you got it from Dragon Ball Z...

Isn't the Bible and Dragon Ball Z the same thing? ;D

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alethiophile
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December 2007
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Yep. ;)

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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To be honest, Piccolo first showed up in Dragon Ball ;) Not DBZ ;)

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Mordredd
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December 2004
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Piccolo, to clarify, this is just an ion drive, a very old invention. It basically consists of an asymmetric condensator loaded with high voltage. The air becomes ionised and the now loaded particles produce an ion wind, which presses the lifter up into the air. This is very efficient.

There are a few things that make it impractical to use:

A) The force is very weak. If you need a stronger force, you'd have to use higher voltage which would lead to flashes and thus damage to the drive.

B) You need air. This drive would not work in vacuum.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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B) You need air. This drive would not work in vacuum.

Depends on the type of ion drive you're talking about. Theres at least one probe out in space with an ion drive, which is estimated to be going at 1/10th the speed of light by now. Takes months to get going that fast, but hey, it can ;)

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Mordredd
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December 2004
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Actually, you have to ionise something, so you would carry a bottle full of gas with you. But this does make no sense, just take a bottle with a gas under high pressure and open it - it would be the same effect.

alethiophile
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December 2007
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Ionizing engines work for atmospheric transport, but not for space. Speaking of which, I have for a long time been thinking about how to make an electricity-only space engine, such that nothing except energy is lost to create propulsion. A system that for instance heats water with electricity to create steam wouldn't work because if you run out of water you are just as stranded as if you ran out of electricity. Any thoughts?

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piccolo
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January 2003
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wow
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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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Ionizing engines work for atmospheric transport, but not for space.

As others have said, it's already been used in spacecraft. And last I heard, the Esa is working on a plasma drive version of an ion engine.

alethiophile
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December 2007
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How does it work in vacuum?

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