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		<title>I think i figured out why i am the way i am.</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Hey peoples.</p><p>I was just thinking to myself how I was going to select the people to be apart of my colony. Thats when it came to me that the way I was acting seem familiar to me.</p><p>It is because it was similar the story of Noah and the arch from the Bible.</p><p>My name come from the Bible and it happen to be the name of one of Noah&#39;s sons.</p><p>A while back I was studying the effects of a child&#39;s name on the way that child lives life.</p><p>for those that do not know the story  the man build and big boat. I am making a space ship.</p><p>Then he selected the animals and humans that would be speared from the clenzing wrath of God.</p><p>Their has always been something in my head telling me i don&#39;t like the way the world is turning out.</p><p>This leads me to strongly beleave that the name you give a child will affect how the child turns out.</p><p>I think ill will start research on the names of lesbians and gays to see if it holds any ground in that area.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Flame on!</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Jerry Seinfeld said:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Did you ever notice a lot of butlers are named Jeeves? I think when you name a baby Jeeves; you&#39;ve pretty much mapped out his future. Not much chance he&#39;s gonna be a hitman. &quot;Terribly sorry, sir, but I&#39;m going to have to whack you.&quot;
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Harte)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Epsi)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>So people still use the names Shem, Ham, and Japheth?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>OH MY GOD!</p><p>Now he&#39;s gone completely bonkers.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Anyone else get the feeling we&#39;ll be hearing about piccolo in the news in the future?</p><p>Personally I think it&#39;ll be more akin to Waco than Ark like.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You can conclude anything from a suitably broad interpretation of statistics.</p><p>I&#39;m not sure if that&#39;s a quote from somewhere, but it certainly matches my experience.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">piccolo said:</div><div class="quote"><p>
for those that do not know the story the man build and big boat. I am making a space ship.
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Anyone else get the feeling we&#39;ll be hearing about piccolo in the news in the future?
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Definitely. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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for those that do not know the story the man build and big boat. I am making a space ship.
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That&#39;s probably the most entertaining piece of posting I&#39;ve seen here in a while.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
the story of Noah and the arch
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That was just an early experiment. Noah quickly gave up on the arch idea when he couldn&#39;t figure out how to get the elephants on.</p><p>So, he got out his notepad, and went to strike out &#39;arch&#39;. But the ink didn&#39;t start flowing until he got to the &#39;h&#39;, and then when he looked down, history was changed forever...
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>My ganpa and my father both had the same name as me.</p><p>ever seen i was young i had these idea and thoughts.</p><p>I have them written in an old exsersize book. im going to go to the library to scan them and then post they.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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Then he selected the animals and humans that would be speared from the clenzing wrath of God.
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That&#39;s interesting, I didn&#39;t know that Noah also chose the ones to be &quot;speared&quot;.  <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>I&#39;m going to name my child &quot;This&quot; so he&#39;s always referencing himself in third person.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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ever seen i was young i had these idea and thoughts.
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I had all sorts of ideas like this when I was young. Grew out of them fast though. So impractical.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;m going to name my child &quot;This&quot; so he&#39;s always referencing himself in third person.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I actually built a spaceship when I was young. The problem was I couldn&#39;t afford the fuel. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" /></p><p>So I gave it to NASA in exchange for some cool gloves.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
My ganpa and my father both had the same name as me.
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So they built spaceships too?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I have studied people for 10 years now from my massive Appolo XXI Spaceship I built myself. ( It uses a HyperDrive 3.1 modulator in an oscillating frequency flux).</p><p>Basically, piccolo, you are obsolete. You will be decommissioned in the next few days, return to Xilon IV when you feel like it, but your mission on Earth is over. ( status EPIC PHAIL ) <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>Anyway, bookmarked, titled &quot;Downfall of a Person: start of mental breakdown&quot;. What are the next symptoms? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>These pictures are very old.</p><p>This picture show how i make a research topic.<br />http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/594823</p><p>This is about the medical field<br />http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/594824</p><p>This is about the medical field too.<br />http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/594826</p><p>This is my therys on the globel warming and the end of the earth<br />http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/594825</p><p>These are my thoughts on life support system.<br /><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"594827","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/b\/9b8949a288f769b33d352dd73f64bb7b.jpg","w":2316,"h":1684,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/b\/9b8949a288f769b33d352dd73f64bb7b"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/9/b/9b8949a288f769b33d352dd73f64bb7b-240.jpg" alt="594827" width="240" height="174" /></span></p><p>This is talking about armor and fores shields<br />http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/594828</p><p>This is the start of my colony and terraforming<br />http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/594829</p><p>Edit: did any one else thing of these types of things when you were young?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
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If you have ideas, thats great, but that doesn&#39;t mean you will actually make any of them happen. Micro robots? Please. You will achieve what hundreds of scientist could not?</p><p>Spaceships? What resources do you have that NASA doesn&#39;t? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><p>Even if you get there (Venus), how will you survive in temperatures as high as <i>460°C</i>?
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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 many of the ideas i had back then have been IMPLEMENTed but not by me.</p><p>what im saying is why was i thinking of theses type of things at that age?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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why was i thinking of theses type of things at that age?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Are there truly any left who do not believe the character &quot;piccolo&quot; is simply some other&#39;s alter ego used as some vague attempt at humor?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (relpatseht)</author>
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In the forth picture i talk about the planet and the way that are because of their distance from the sun.</p><p>there was no other one like me in my primary school. the only thing the other kids like about science is the cool things i used to make an bring to school.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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Are there truly any left who do not believe the character &quot;piccolo&quot; is simply some other&#39;s alter ego used as some vague attempt at humor?
</p></div></div><p>He&#39;s been here too long for that. I once thought the same thing about yves. Sadly it was not the case.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
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vague attempt at humor?
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Vague attempt?  Piccolo is humor incarnate!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Onewing)</author>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I think you guys know im not trying to be funny.</p><p>do you see how i study something.</p><p>I label the subject then ask questions then analyze the  answers then ask more questions.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
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what im saying is why was i thinking of theses type of things at that age?
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Definitely, I remember writing up things like that when I was a kid (~9 yrs old).  I used to particularly enjoy designing layouts for crazy houses and amusement parks.  Man, I&#39;d love to find some of those things again, and the way my mom keeps stuff around, I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if they&#39;re hiding in a box somewhere.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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crazy houses and amusement parks.
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see thats not quite the same this has nothing to do with me having fun. Kids like to have fun. but when i did this stuff i was a serous as i am now. </p><p>edit:
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So they built spaceships too?
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no i dont think so but my grampa work hard so my father would not have to leave in poverty in my home country he saved enough money so my father could movie to where i live now. and my father saved up enough money so i can live better then he did and get an education. my life was not a good life but it was better then my fathers. and now i have a job to do for my sons and the blood line.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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do you see how i study something<b>?</b>
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And now you&#39;re studying yourself and you are slightly surprised by what you&#39;ve found.  Evaluating yourself is a good thing as it can help you figure out what things you need to work on.
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And now you&#39;re studying yourself and you are slightly surprised by what you&#39;ve found. Evaluating yourself is a good thing as it can help you figure out what things you need to work on.
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when i said &quot;see how i study things&quot; i ment in genarel, but your right i am studying myself. I do it because i want to reproduce my self in my offspring.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (imaxcs)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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Ah! But did you make cool pottery, models, textilles, drawings and paintings like I did? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
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Ah! But did you make cool pottery, models, textilles, drawings and paintings like I did?
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i did not make that type of stuff i made weapons like crossbows, super soakers, i made a plain out of Styrofoam. A speed boat out of wood all with out plans this is when there was no access to the internet. So every one was amassed.</p><p>I draw and wrote stories but they where labeled as disturbing so i stopped drawing for and writing and focused on my inventions.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
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see thats not quite the same this has nothing to do with me having fun. Kids like to have fun. but when i did this stuff i was a serous as i am now.
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Okay, that&#39;s true about the amusement parks thing, but I was pretty serious about some of the house designs I did.  I remember some of my designs had tires in the walls to act as insulation and they were all heated by running pipes of water through the walls from a reservoir that was solar-heated.
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Are there truly any left who do not believe the character &quot;piccolo&quot; is simply some other&#39;s alter ego used as some vague attempt at humor?
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There are videos of <a href="http://youtube.com/user/jeffnicq">piccolo on YouTube</a>. He seems pretty real to me.
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I&#39;m going to name my child &quot;This&quot; so he&#39;s always referencing himself in third person.
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This is bullcrap.</p><p>Piccolo, so are you Shem, Ham or Yaphet?<br />Guess: Yaphet, like Yaphet kotto from Homicide: Life on the Streets <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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but I was pretty serious about some of the house designs I did. I remember some of my designs had tires in the walls to act as insulation and they were all heated by running pipes of water through the walls from a reservoir that was solar-heated.
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how did people react to your ideas or did you keep them to your self.</p><p>if you was serious why did you let go of the house designs ideas.<br />what happen to you that did not happen to me why you are different how you used to be  and im still the same?
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I think I showed my ideas to my parents and they were encouraging (as always).  I wanted to be an architect for a long time.  All the way up to high school that&#39;s what I told people I wanted to be &#39;when I grew up&#39;. In high school I took all the CAD classes that were offered, but I was also exposed to programming classes for the first time too.  I ended up enjoying my programming classes a lot more and started coding games as a hobby, so that influenced by decision to go to university for computer science as opposed to pursuing the architecture.</p><p>As far as a dramatic &#39;personality change&#39; I would say that I still maintain an interest in developing new and interesting things, but it&#39;s more focused on my area of expertise (programming and CS) now.  I think that probably goes for most of the people here: the crazy imagination one has as a child thinks up new ideas all the time and doesn&#39;t give too much thought to the implementation, but as you grow older you become more aware of the challenge in implementing these ideas so you begin to focus your creative energies on things you&#39;re more likely to be able to implement.  Instead of designing a revolutionary house (something I have no expertise in) I am more likely to spend my time designing a revolutionary program or game (still difficult, but much more reasonable).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (FrankyR)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Onewing)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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I spent my childhood dreaming up different game ideas, still chasing those dreams today.
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Oh, yeah. I should also add that as I child I used to design a lot of board games.  After my CS course that changed to designing video games <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (FrankyR)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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you grow older you become more aware of the challenge in implementing these ideas
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as a child i never had an implementation problem i was so good at substitution. the only problem i had was space. my family never owned a house so i was limited to what i could do in the yard. </p><p>there are some drawing of a tank in the same book i scaned the other pictures from.<br />i put together a team of kids from the neighborhood and we started to construct it.<br />it was big enough to hold 3-4 kids inside. one to control the tenses ball canon one to peddle power it and the other to stare it. later on we found a old engine and was planing to swap or the peddle power. but and old man that owned a nursery near by send we had to take it apart because people where complain that they could not get to the nursery( witch was bull crap because there was plenty of space to turn) </p><p>but yea i never had problems with implementation because i new development is an ongoing process.</p><p>Edit: i can just Imagen what i would have built if my parent owned a house by the water.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (le_y_mistar)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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This leads me to strongly beleave that the name you give a child will affect how the child turns out.
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My name is Trent but you won&#39;t find me filling my hard drives by downloading torrents!</p><p>I think I&#39;ve done more than my share of crying though. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trent Gamblin)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ben Delacob)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (aj5555)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bob Keane)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>If piccolo is really building a spaceship I&#39;d love to know what his budget is. AFAIK, NASA&#39;s space shuttle&#39;s cost around $1.7 <u>b</u>illion USD. I&#39;ve seen cheaper rockets designed to take men into space (albeit, none of them have launched yet AFAIK), but if you&#39;re actually planning to travel to another planet and colonize it you&#39;ll need a lot more than today&#39;s most advanced space shuttle, let alone a cheap rocket... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" /> I&#39;d estimate costs in the trillions of dollars and it might not even be feasible with today&#39;s technology.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (bamccaig)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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it might not even be feasible with today&#39;s technology.
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It&#39;s completely possible, but I doubt it&#39;ll happen soon because of the costs involved.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Black)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Its not completely possible. Its not even remotely possible yet. Its more complicated then putting a man/men or women in a spaceship and launching them to another planet. </p><p>There are factors such as housing, solar radiation, psychological stress, etc. to consider. Even with the money, its far from &quot;completely&quot; possible.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>It could be done with current technology. It will be much cheaper, easier, and safer with future technology, but that doesn&#39;t rule out our current technology. We can debate this if you like, but this really isn&#39;t the thread for it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Black)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>- Vanneto -<br />Geez , don&#39;t be such a doubter. We&#39;ve already put people on the moon , we&#39;ve built a space station. Is building a station on the moon or mars such a stretch? Not really.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Edgar Reynaldo)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>The moon cannot be compared to Mars. Mars is farther away then the moon, plus, if people go to mars, they would be there for some time, not just get there go back. Its  presents a very difficult challenge.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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Is building a station on the moon or mars such a stretch?
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A station, maybe not... But <i>colonization</i>? yes.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jonatan Hedborg)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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Its presents a very difficult challenge.
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But not an impossible challenge. If you really want to debate this then make a new thread for it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Black)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kikaru)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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I think i figured out why i am the way i am.
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&quot;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFPShUSgFyI">The Way I Am</a>&quot; <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cool.gif" alt="8-)" />
</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Neil Black said:</div><div class="quote"><p>
If you really want to debate this then make a new thread for it.
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<a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/595726">Is It Feasible To Colonize Another Planet With Today&#39;s Technology?</a>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (bamccaig)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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Are you really trying to design or build a space ship in real life? One that will carry people or one of those smarter, smaller lightweight things that use solar power and slowly rise out of the atmosphere?
</p></div></div><p> its a space ship not using the current technology meaning no rockets</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
If you are thinking in terms of planets, micro robots aren&#39;t really that small!
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micro robots were to be used in the medical feild. and in that picture i also said that it would be easer to clone a virus for the purpuss heal then making a micro robots. with the stuff i researched back then.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jonatan Hedborg)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>i planed to make a new propeltion system. i plan to move with current forces</p><p>edit 
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How would you propel it with no rockets?
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This sounds like:<br />example: helicopter </p><p> how will it fly with out wings
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Free Energy!? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" /> </p><p>Did you finish it? Could we have just a fraction of that? Common!! You get it for free! Give us some of that electricity!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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i plan to move with current forces
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How will that work? The propulsion system is the heart of a spaceship; if you can&#39;t get it to work it&#39;s worthless.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Audric)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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current forces
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<img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/huh.gif" alt="???" /></p><p>All propulsion works by pushing something in the opposite direction that you want to travel. There are more effective means of doing this than rockets, I&#39;m sure.  I do however doubt we will have star-trek technology in our lifetimes, if ever.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jonatan Hedborg)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>a simple example would be 2 magnets the repel each other.</p><p>one magnets is the ship the other is the area behind the ship.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Geez , don&#39;t be such a doubter. We&#39;ve already put people on the moon , we&#39;ve built a space station. Is building a station on the moon or mars such a stretch? Not really.
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Man never set foot on the moon. It was all done in a studio. It&#39;s the biggest fraud ever <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><p>[edit]<br />@picollo: While reading the posts, it came to mind that you may be thinking magnets, and then I read your post that said it. Keep in mind that you&#39;ll need very powerful magnetic forces to propell the space ship out of earths&#39; gravitaional forces. This leads to 2 thoughts:</p><p>1. could this interfere with the electronics?<br />2. if the distance the magnetic force applies is short, would the initial shove created by the magnets be too great for the human body to handle?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (HardTranceFan)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jonatan Hedborg)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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A while back I was studying the effects of a child&#39;s name on the way that child lives life .... This leads me to strongly beleave that the name you give a child will affect how the child turns out.
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I don&#39;t understand; I&#39;ve skimmed this whole thread and not seen one single joke about how he wants to abduct people and train them for a year in preperation for the Sayians&#39; arrival ....
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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1. could this interfere with the electronics?<br />2. if the distance the magnetic force applies is short, would the initial shove created by the magnets be too great for the human body to handle?
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@1.)<br />they have this stuff already i just plan on improving it.<br />To hover the unit the ionize the air around it to repel the unit.</p><p>@2.) it would pulse. like a hovering bird.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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they have this stuff already i just plan on improving it.<br />To hover the unit the ionize the air around it to repel the unit.
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<img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/huh.gif" alt="???" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BSp-tp3dOs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BSp-tp3dOs</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfrqzBGPnwE&amp;feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfrqzBGPnwE&amp;feature=related</a></p><p>these two should explain it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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I am making a space ship.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Dennis)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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these two should explain it.
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It <i>sure</i> does! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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It sure does! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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Hey, it&#39;s a video on youTube so it must be true! Anti-gravity for all! \o/
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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I cant help you beleave.
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Yes, that&#39;s true, you can&#39;t! Because I have attended physics-lessons... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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@2.) it would pulse. like a hovering bird.
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When HardTranceFan said </p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
if the distance the magnetic force applies is short, would the initial shove created by the magnets be too great for the human body to handle?
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I think he was saying that if you had one magnet on the ground and another on the ship, the force needed to propel the ship into orbit would be so great it would crush people inside.  I don&#39;t understand how &#39;pulsing&#39; makes any sense here. Would it shoot the ship up a bit and then let it fall and then shoot up again?  Because that doesn&#39;t accomplish anything (except a fun ride <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />).</p><p>Or, are you suggesting that the second magnet travels along with the ship?  I suspect that&#39;s what you mean, and in that case I&#39;ll just quietly leave this thread...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (FrankyR)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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My name come from the Bible
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I thought you got it from Dragon Ball Z...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jonny Cook)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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I thought you got it from Dragon Ball Z...
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Isn&#39;t the Bible and Dragon Ball Z the same thing? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (alethiophile)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Piccolo, to clarify, this is just an ion drive, a very old invention. It basically consists of an asymmetric condensator loaded with high voltage. The air becomes ionised and the now loaded particles produce an ion wind, which presses the lifter up into the air. This is very efficient.</p><p>There are a few things that make it impractical to use:</p><p>A) The force is very weak. If you need a stronger force, you&#39;d have to use higher voltage which would lead to flashes and thus damage to the drive.</p><p>B) You need air. This drive would not work in vacuum.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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B) You need air. This drive would not work in vacuum.
</p></div></div><p>Depends on the type of ion drive you&#39;re talking about. Theres at least one probe out in space with an ion drive, which is estimated to be going at 1/10th the speed of light by now. Takes months to get going that fast, but hey, it can <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Actually, you have to ionise something, so you would carry a bottle full of gas with you. But this does make no sense, just take a bottle with a gas under high pressure and open it - it would be the same effect.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Ionizing engines work for atmospheric transport, but not for space. Speaking of which, I have for a long time been thinking about how to make an electricity-only space engine, such that nothing except energy is lost to create propulsion. A system that for instance heats water with electricity to create steam wouldn&#39;t work because if you run out of water you are just as stranded as if you ran out of electricity. Any thoughts?
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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Ionizing engines work for atmospheric transport, but not for space.
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As others have said, it&#39;s already been used in spacecraft. And last I heard, the Esa is working on a plasma drive version of an ion engine.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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being in america has slowed me down some because i don&#39;t have my lab.
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I suggest Menlo Park for the location go your new science lair.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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Speaking of which, I have for a long time been thinking about how to make an electricity-only space engine, such that nothing except energy is lost to create propulsion. A system that for instance heats water with electricity to create steam wouldn&#39;t work because if you run out of water you are just as stranded as if you ran out of electricity. Any thoughts?
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You gotta throw something behind you in order to move forward. I suppose that thing could be electrons, but they are so incredibly light (9.1*10^-31 kg) it would probably not be feasible. </p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
How does it work in vacuum?
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Actually, you have to ionise something, so you would carry a bottle full of gas with you. But this does make no sense, just take a bottle with a gas under high pressure and open it - it would be the same effect.
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What he said, except it does makes sense. You take some inert gas, ionize it and accelerate very small amounts of it to very high speeds. You get a very high specific impulse, and you need very little reaction mass.   The force generated is extremely small however.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jonatan Hedborg)</author>
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Dawn&#39;s ion engines are extremely frugal powerhouses. The 27 hours of thrusting from the ion engine resulted in the consumption of less than .28 kilograms (10 ounces) of the spacecraft&#39;s xenon fuel supply -- less than the contents of a can of soda. Dawn&#39;s fuel tank carries 425 kilograms (937 pounds) of xenon propellant. Over their lifetime, Dawn&#39;s three ion propulsion engines will fire cumulatively for about 50,000 hours (over five years) -- a record for spacecraft.
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The ion engines were tested at five different throttle levels and performed &quot;flawlessly&quot; according to Jon Brophy, the Dawn project&#39;s ion propulsion manager at JPL, in an official statement. Charged ion particles shoot out of the engines at 90,000 miles per hour (144,840 kph) to slowly accelerate the spacecraft over time.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (FrankyR)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>@FrankyR Im planing to take it a step further. I propose to make the ship one big ion  (its really may ions) an ion field. then ill charge the space behind the field wit will move the ship.</p><p>edit: i am also planing a defense system using the same system witch would litarly rip its target in half
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Space = vacuum = nothing to charge?</p><p>But yeah, you will do what NASA is doing for years and needed millions and lots of people what you are going to do better in a fraction of the time.</p><p>Where is your free energy maker?<br />And why hasn&#39;t NASA hired you yet?<br /><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Nasa is no the center of the world people that go to fanncey school are not the only ones with brains. further education is 10% learning and 90% showing what you already know.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (piccolo)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Agreed. Now, show us your free energy maker. That should make you eligible for NASA. </p><p>Its not the center of the world, but it sure has lots of MONEY!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Vanneto)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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That should make you eligible for NASA.
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To tell you the truth i would never want to work for nasa or for any one.<br />My school has closes ties with nasa and i could have problem gotten an internship.</p><p>But this place is to full of liers scamers and they don&#39;t have any type of honor or .
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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no honor or dots? how awful.
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Clearly he was saying they have no women, considering their lack of periods.
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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Clearly he was saying they have no women, considering their lack of periods.
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That got a good laugh out of me. Thanks! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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