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| Scientific Discovery: Woman are 'Nasty' |
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nonnus29
Member #2,606
August 2002
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We've always suspected woman are evil, now there's proof. Well, 'nasty' at least: Quote: "We know that the reproductive tract in females can be a nasty place for sperm," Hodgson told LiveScience. The acidity can kill many sperm, and scientists think some females' immune systems attack sperm as a "foreign object." |
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Steve Terry
Member #1,989
March 2002
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So... you are saying men are like sperm and women are like the reproductive tract... that puts some very strange pictures in my head. Otherwise this is very old news to me. ___________________________________ |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Women.
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Quote: We've always suspected woman are evil, now there's proof. sigh Here's an idea; give me the grants for these scientific studies and I'll just tell you obvious stuff like this every so often. Much more efficient. -- |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: scientists think some females' immune systems attack sperm No shit! Wheres the "security" if all 5,000,000 or so got through? Sheesh. Its supposed to be "Survival of the Fittest".. Yow. -- |
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CGamesPlay
Member #2,559
July 2002
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Never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die. -- Ryan Patterson - <http://cgamesplay.com/> |
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Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003
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Quote: No shit! Wheres the "security" if all 5,000,000 or so got through? Sheesh. Its supposed to be "Survival of the Fittest".. Yow.
I'm curious. Is that important? Survival of the fittest sperm? I guess it would depend on what causes the formation of the sperm. I can't remember that part of my biology class. If the sperm's formation and function is dependent on the genes it ends up with, then I suppose it is important as long as the genes that determine sperm fitness also determine the fitness of the full organism that will be created.
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X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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For once Helium is right, individual sperm potency has nothing to do with survival of the most fit. -- |
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Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003
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The little Helis like to fight anyway
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Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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Quote: For once Helium is right, individual sperm potency has nothing to do with survival of the most fit.
Depends. There's selection against having lazy/bad sperm. You can have many good qualities, but if your sperm is useless, you are not the most fit. |
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Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003
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Quote:
Depends. There's selection against having lazy/bad sperm. You can have many good qualities, but if your sperm is useless, you are not the most fit. Ahh yes, that's true. I was thinking monogamously.
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Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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Monogamy has nothing to do with it. Of course assuming all women are equally fertile is incorrect, but it's still true that given the same chances (or hypothetically the same woman), you produce less children than your competition. |
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X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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I know, Evert. I tried to avoid that by saying individual sperm potency, as clearly if your sperm in general isn't very potent you're not going to be able to reproduce, and hence is not the most fit. I meant that individual sperm do not compete for fitness with each other to any degree that would influence the fitness of the resulting child; as far as I know there's nothing to indicate that a particular sperm's superior mobility and resilience has any direct connection to good qualities in the offspring. -- |
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miran
Member #2,407
June 2002
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In many species, especially in mammals, when females are in heat, they mate with several males. The one that gets there first and the one whose sperm is fittest has most chance of impregnating the female. I think homo sapiens is one of those species, although in modern civilisation things are a little different... -- |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: The one that gets there first and the one whose sperm is fittest has most chance of impregnating the female. The article claims that it's the one that gets there last that has the most chance.
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miran
Member #2,407
June 2002
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Oh rigth, it makes sense... -- |
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Steve++
Member #1,816
January 2002
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Think of it this way: Although the male that gets there last has the most probability of success, he also has the most probability of catching something nasty that will shorten his life. Who wants sloppy seconds anyway? Not me, that's for sure. |
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Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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Quote: The one that gets there first and the one whose sperm is fittest has most chance of impregnating the female. I think homo sapiens is one of those species, although in modern civilisation things are a little different...
Not quite "first" or "last" with humans. It's rather a "window of opportunity", which lasts quite a few days (something like 1 to 2 weeks IIRC), and pretty much anyone who gets to hit that window has a chance. If you're late, fast agile sperm is an advantage, while early in the window, slower (but more resistant) sperms would be better. --- |
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relay01
Member #6,988
March 2006
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Quote: Never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die. Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha... *tear _____________________________________ |
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piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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hey dose this make you think of a nice on-line game some one should make it, wow |
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nonnus29
Member #2,606
August 2002
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Quote:
hey dose this make you think of a nice on-line game some one should make it, I'm being completely serious and completely compassionate when I ask the following: Dude, are you retarded? |
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piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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hey its a cool idea i thing it will make some loot or even fame. i think ill my it and copy right it. think out side of the box young one. wow |
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HardTranceFan
Member #7,317
June 2006
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Tobias Dammers said: It's rather a "window of opportunity", which lasts quite a few days (something like 1 to 2 weeks IIRC) The sperm can last up to a week, but the window of opportunity is only about a day, when the woman ovulates. nonnus29 said: I'm being completely serious and completely compassionate when I ask the following: Dude, are you retarded? Whatever his issue, he comes up with some beauties. piccolo said: hey its a cool idea i thing it will make some loot or even fame.
Mate, are you writing with a lisp? -- |
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miran
Member #2,407
June 2002
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Quote: Dude, are you retarded? That's a rhetorical question... -- |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: I'm being completely serious and completely compassionate when I ask the following: Dude, are you retarded? That's a pretty cruel thing to say about retarded people.
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