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How Dead Am I (2)
Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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The closest I came to death on the highway was when...

I was minding my own business on the two-lane highway (ie, one lane in each direction) going 65MPH (105 km/h) when I got this sneaking suspicion that the oncoming car was going to swerve into my lane. (My Jedi instincts, I tell you.) Sure enough, about a second later, he swerved directly toward me about a car's length away. (I'm sure it was farther away than that, but when you are traveling toward each other it seems like a much shorter distance...)

Of course, I couldn't stay in my lane. Nor could I swerve to the shoulder on my right, because that is where he was quickly heading. So I had to swerve into his lane, under the assumption that the semi truck behind him would take his shoulder. And fortunately (I suppose) he did, and for a brief time, we converted the two lane highway into a three lane one with alternating traffic.

gnolam
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March 2002
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Of course, I couldn't stay in my lane. Nor could I swerve to the shoulder on my right, because that is where he was quickly heading. So I had to swerve into his lane, under the assumption that the semi truck behind him would take his shoulder. And fortunately (I suppose) he did, and for a brief time, we converted the two lane highway into a three lane one with alternating traffic.

Sounds like a normal day in Istanbul.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Yeah, but they probably are all driving armored vehicles with the windshields removed.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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I got hit by a car once. I think I proclaimed it here at the time too. :)

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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If you had had a similar situation last night you probably wouldn't have been that lucky

I don't think you realize the mechanics involved in the story I just told. Brakes didn't save me. Steering and my reaction time did.

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For base model. Yours is not, remember. It's got the Mitsubishi 4G63 that is a lot bigger heap of metal than the 4G37 in the base model. It's around 1230kg. 1300kg was overestimated but i was only bit off, so sue me. :)

True, true.

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HoHo
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April 2004
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But breaks did help you steer a bit better, at least they slowed you down a bit to make that turn. If you hadn't have that extra time braking gave you and/or if they had been a bit closer, had it end in a different way?

My point is that accidents happen, there is no way around them. Driving around with a broken car just increases your chances of causing or being involved in one.

Btw, I also have been in an accident actually I caused it. I was riding my bike @35km/h and tried to dodge around a parked minivan. As soon as I got around it another car came straight at me from the opposite direction. Luckily it had just made a turn and drove really slow, around 10-15km/h at most. It took about 0.1s from me noticing the car and landing head first into the windshield. Thanks to the helmet all I got was a little shock and couple of bruises. My bike was toasted and so was the windshield. Now I'm much more careful when biking. I only drive fast when I can see where I'm going and always wear a helmet.

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nonnus29
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August 2002
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This is what I think happened (and some one may have already said this, I didn't read all the post):

You probably have really low brake fluid level in your master cylinder/resevoir so when you were screwing around in the parking lot you got a bunch of air in the lines from the brake fluid sloshing around. And when you pumped the brakes you bled the air out of the lines.

When I was poor I used to drive a little toyota truck with leaky brake cylinders in the rear, and whenever the brakes got mushy I knew it was time to add some brake fluid, and if I forgot I'd use the hand brake. And then when I did add fluid I'd have to pump them for a while.

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Say whatever you want. But you guys are crazy. You're so afraid of the world! I wasn't "in danger" at any point! If I can drive my car with bald tires in the rain, if I can drive my car with no ABS in the rain (never had it to begin with), if I can drive my car with no powersteering or powered braking, if I can drive my car with two-cylinders, I think I can manage occasionally pumping my brakes. Now, I know you'll say doing each one of those things is stupid. Have at it. However, when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere in the freezing cold, you don't have a choice. It's either walk and pray, or drive and pray. I'm gonna drive, thank you very much.

I really hope you never come to my country and hire a rental. We've got too many idiot drivers as it is.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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nonus29 said:

You probably have really low brake fluid level in your master cylinder/resevoir

That sounds likely to me. The air compresses whereas the brake fluid doesn't (to any significant degree). Adding more fluid can displace the air if it's right there in the master cylinder. Another thing is if you have water in the brake fluid in the wheel cylinders/calipers and do hard braking, the water will boil into steam which will compress just like air, when it cools back to water it'll work normally again. Water will rust stuff though, and it's a good idea to totally flush the old brake fluid out every year or two for just that reason. Especially if you have ABS (1500 US dollars maybe to replace the ABS things). If you have cheapo brake shoes/pads and you really get them hot, the resin that holds the brake lining together can melt and lubricate the brakes so they don't work well (brake fade) but usually with that you won't have the pedal drop to the floor. If you have a fluid leak, you might find it by driving onto a clean section of a parking lot and pump the brakes hard with the engine running and look for dripping. If it's in the wheel cylinders it might not drip where you can see it right off, but then the inner facing sidewalls of the tires should look greasy. If it's the master cylinder, there may be a wet stain running down from the master cylinder down onto the booster resevoir (the big pill shaped thing) and will usually peel the paint from it too. There are certain leaks in a master cylinder where it just leaks back to the resevoir internally, (you can't see any leaking fluid outside) so if you can't see any leaks and have bled the brake lines until you get nice clear fluid, I'd try a new master cylinder.

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kronoman
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November 2002
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you have a automatic gearbox right ?

tip : with a manual gearbox, you can brake using clever clutch moves and down shifting.

Neil Walker
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April 2000
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If I can drive my car with bald tires in the rain...

Perhaps you won't be saying that after you've rammed a car from behind, killing all the passengers.

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Richard Phipps
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Neil Walker
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Actually, thinking about it, you can't possibly die from being rammed in America, given they all drive 25ft, 16ton, 7litre engined monsters ;)

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Chris Katko
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Perhaps you won't be saying that after you've rammed a car from behind, killing all the passengers.

Bald front tires. Ala steering and acceleration. And I think you forgot that I don't have ABS, so I'm pretty much fucked in rain anyway. Again, steering is what'll save me, not slamming on the brakes like someone who doesn't know how to drive (which only removes your ability to steer).

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you have a automatic gearbox right ?

No. And I'll never buy one. An automatic is like riding, a manual is driving.

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DeathWish has no fear! >:(

Rawr! >:( ::hits fist against chest::

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jhuuskon
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April 2000
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I think the finnish expression 'amis' suits you perfectly. ::)

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I don't have ABS, so I'm pretty much fucked in rain anyway

What? You have only slicks in the states? You're not fucked in rain if you know how to drive and have good tires. They should teach you these things in driving school. Or don't they teach you guys how to brake by pumping the pedal (essential skill in the winter around here)? If your tires climb onto the water then obviosly you have too worn tires and/or are going too fast.

My mama can drive in the rain and she don't think much of it.

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An automatic is like riding, a manual is driving

What difference does it make? Unless you know the tricks of the trade you're going to be slower with a manual anyway. ::) In fact, you're always going to be slower with a manual. Now semiautomatic aka. sequential, that's a whole another case...

My mama can drive manual. She has, however, not a clue on how to operate an automatic gearbox. It's all about what you're used to.

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HoHo
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April 2004
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What difference does it make?

For one thing, you can't brake with engine when you have automatic gearbox.
Also some people like to be in control, or at least think they are :P

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jhuuskon
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April 2000
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you can't brake with engine when you have automatic gearbox.

Actually it does engine brake just fine. Just not as efficiently and to as low rpm's as possible on manual. The torque converter works both ways.

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Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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DeathWish has no flashing warning 'katko alert' light! >:(

Sevalecan
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June 2004
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Actually it does engine brake just fine. Just not as efficiently and to as low rpm's as possible on manual. The torque converter works both ways.

... unless you're missing a check ball! ;)

anyway... rig up a switch for torque converter lockup override? ;)

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We used to have a switch in our van for torque converter lockup because it wouldnt do it automatically for some reason... but then my dad fixed that..

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Marcello
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January 2002
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My mama can drive manual. She has, however, not a clue on how to operate an automatic gearbox. It's all about what you're used to.

Er, what's there to know? You set it to drive and forget about it!

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Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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The first time I drove an automatic gearbox, I put it into 'D' and then forgot about it. Worked fine until I slammed the brake with both feet.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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What? You have only slicks in the states?

First, my car is notorious for piss poor rain handling. Second, there's no way you can pump the brakes fast enough in rain if you have to go from 70 MPH to zero in three seconds. Thirdly... I already mentioned that you remove your ability to steer when you do that.

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If your tires climb onto the water then obviosly you have too worn tires and/or are going too fast.

No shit, Sherlock. ::)

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What difference does it make? Unless you know the tricks of the trade you're going to be slower with a manual anyway. ::) In fact, you're always going to be slower with a manual. Now semiautomatic aka. sequential, that's a whole another case...

How is drivetrain loss and hesitation caused by a torque converter going to make you faster? I'm well aware of semiautomatics, but I don't see how that has any relevance whatsoever.

p.s. I love that only three or so posts have actually dealt the thread's question.

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Corelian
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March 2003
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For DeathWish, every street is "one way". HIS WAY.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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p.s. I love that only three or so posts have actually dealt the thread's question.

You didn't ask any questions. You just rambled on about another day of your life.

Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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