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miran
Member #2,407
June 2002

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!

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Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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21 hours to go go go, 21 hours to go go go...

I more or less have my framework sorted and some of my drawing routines, which means I've more or less picked a graphical style - which I hope is "unique" but not as in ugly. Out of interest, will there be a capacity for submitting early? I don't expect I'll use it, but...

Derezo
Member #1,666
April 2001
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Can I make logo's too? I like making logos! ;D (I'm not participating though, not enough time :(

I liked inphernic's, so I used his design as inspiration for the first one.

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Onewing
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August 2005
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Out of interest, will there be a capacity for submitting early?

I'll be submitting early 'cus I'm headin' on vacaction at the end of next week. Plus, I'm working 9-6 during the weekdays, so I'll pretty much just have this weekend. Should be interesting...

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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001

Oh well, (at least!) one more post on the subject!

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OICW's logo is nice and expresses "hack"

Not in a good sense, though - it expresses how hacky the job on the logo it is. ;)

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They are both acceptable.

Not to someone with a bit of sense for design.

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so some effects are necesary to do

..no. Just.. no. :)

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Can I make logo's too? I like making logos!

I don't know, you'd have to ask logo. ;)

1: The font and colours should go
2: There's an idea but it's ruined by the font, colours and placement
3: ..nope.
4: ..nope.

Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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Sooo...why are there so many "spectators" registered? Are they not participating?

BTW, I think we should use miran's post as a logo, it makes me feel all christmas-y inside.

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Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Oh well, (at least!) one more post on the subject!

What do you think of my logo? I think it is super and better than everyone else's put together and I hereby table a motion that mine be adopted as the official logo for Christmas Hack.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/HackLogo.png

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Sooo...why are there so many "spectators" registered? Are they not participating?

I count 19 participants of the 27 registered, which is just more than 70%. I don't think that's bad. It should certainly lead to an "interesting crop" of end results! I just hope I get one of the ideas I really like the look of...

OICW
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November 2003
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What the hell I've done? Next time I'll let my mounth shut :-/

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Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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Oh yeah, take this logo!

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Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Oh yeah, take this logo!

You're hoping to get "I want a game where you compete in one or more winter sports. There should be lots of snow and/or ice."?

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What the hell I've done? Next time I'll let my mounth shut

I was just being "comical" about Inphernic's responses to everyone else's logos!

OICW
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November 2003
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I was just reffering that my initiative almost started a flamewar ;D

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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001

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What do you think of my logo? I think it is super and better than everyone else's put together and I hereby table a motion that mine be adopted as the official logo for Christmas Hack.

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I was just being "comical" about Inphernic's responses to everyone else's logos!

I never said mine are super nor tried to 1) coerce anyone into using them, 2) get them instated as official logos. I said and will say that my logos work better as logos, and tried to give suggestions and directions. What exactly is your problem with that? :) You think that those programmer art "pieces" are super cool awesomest evar and therefore I'm obviously wrong? Something comical like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"? ;)

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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What exactly is your problem with that?

I didn't mean to suggest that you had done either of your numbered things, or that I hold an opposite opinion to you. I just thought it would be funny to give you the chance to respond to an absolutely awful piece of art promoted as though it was the best thing ever. In particular, I think there is a lot of scope for suggesting problems and improvements with my work - even though it already beats every other logo ever devised since time began throughout the known universe. And the idea I would exaggerate is 1,000 times falser than you could imagine even if you thought really really hard for a million billion years.

Jakub Wasilewski
Member #3,653
June 2003
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Please, take your logo discussion to some other thread, OK? The topic of this thread is still (believe it or not :P) "A.cc ChristmasHack".

On another note, I have finally managed to code the randomizer in the way I like. It shouldn't be called a randomizer, though, because it's a rather intelligent matching algorithm. I won't delve into details, but basically it boils down to this:

Calculate "matching score" for all recipient-author pairs.
Order recipients by highest possible score, if they were paired with the best matching author (ascending).
For each recipient on the ordered list:
    Pick the best matching author from those still available.

Matching score is based on several factors:
- most important of all, operating systems. If the author can develop for the recipient system, +20.  If he can't, the points are based on the author's versatility (someone who can develop for both Win and Lin is considered more likely to make something portable enough to run on a Mac than some Win only, for example).
- total number of points the author gave the recipient's descriptions in voting (good = 2, bad = 0).

Works pretty well, and the outcomes, while random, are very sensible (during all of the test runs I got at least one of the descriptions I marked "good").

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Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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What should we do if something does go wrong?

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BAF
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December 2002
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Between Inphernic's, Derezo's, and OICW's logos, I think OICW's look slightly noobish (due to the childish looking fonts/etc). I personally SUCK at anything graphical, so you've done much better than I could do. Derezo's first two looked professional and nice to me, as did Inphernic's. I think I'm more drawn to Inphy's due to the simple, crisp, clean, professional look of them.

[edit] Missed the post on no logoness, sorry. The matching algorithm looks good to me, I was going to ask if you kept track of who voted what, so you could match based on their assessment of the idea.

Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001

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I didn't mean to suggest that you had done either of your numbered things, or that I hold an opposite opinion to you. I just thought it would be funny to give you the chance to respond to an absolutely awful piece of art promoted as though it was the best thing ever. In particular, I think there is a lot of scope for suggesting problems and improvements with my work - even though it already beats every other logo ever devised since time began throughout the known universe. And the idea I would exaggerate is 1,000 times falser than you could imagine even if you thought really really hard for a million billion years.

I.. see. :)

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Please, take your logo discussion to some other thread, OK? The topic of this thread is still (believe it or not :P) "A.cc ChristmasHack".

I don't believe it!

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Works pretty well, and the outcomes, while random, are very sensible

Are you excluding users from the pairing? My participation is still quite unlikely and it'd be a drag for someone to expect a game from me if I can't find the time.

Jakub Wasilewski
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June 2003
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Are you excluding users from the pairing? My participation is still quite unlikely and it'd be a drag for someone to expect a game from me if I can't find the time.

You are registered only as a spectator now. Once you post your 3 descriptions you are considered a participant - and only then would you be included in the pairing.

You have time to make your decision before tomorrow, 15:45 GMT. Around that time I'll fix the participant list and run the pairing script.

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What should we do if something does go wrong?

Something? As in, with the pairing system? Well, I'll examine the pairing myself, and unless I see something braindead (like assigning someone withouit any Linux experience to make a game for a Linux user), I'll let it stay the way it is. If you don't like the descriptions you receive, well... there is no algorithm that could make all 20 people happy :).

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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Is the automated script going to automatically email the pairings and automatically email the emails linking to downloads / etc at the end of the competition? If so, you might want to do a quick test of mail() (just make a quick script to email yourself something) to ensure it will work. It works for me, but I have had a couple people complain of it not working.

Onewing
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August 2005
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If you don't like the descriptions you receive, well...

I don't think there's any description right now that I can't work with. I was more concerned with having a contingency plan for any problems that could happen. More of a proactive risk management type rather than reactive.

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Jakub Wasilewski
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June 2003
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In case something goes wrong, you'll have to contact me ASAP, because I'm the only person who is maintaining CH. I will be available every night (my night, GMT+1) throughout the contest. I can't guarantee being in front of the computer 24h. Depending on the nature of the problem, I will try to fix it, and fix the effects that it has had on the database.

I try to triple-check every possibility of a screw-up during testing, but of course I can't be sure everything is right. But I can promise that I'll devote myself to fixing any important problem that should arise.

When I'm using the computer, I always have these forums open, so a PM will get my attention instantaneously, and that's the preferred form of reporting major problems. Minor problems/feature requests can be posted in this thread.

BAF:

The mailing system works as expected.

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Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003

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I won't delve into details, but basically it boils down to this:

Bunch of stuff happens, probably involving magic, santa's bag, reindeer, and unicorns. Gotcha.

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Bunch of stuff happens, probably involving magic, santa's bag, reindeer, and unicorns. Gotcha.

With just 15 hours to go, I'm getting even more enthusiastic now than I was. This'll be the first time I've participated in a functioning programming event in almost a decade. I possibly should have been less gushing in my voting in the hope of increasing my chance of getting something really fun to make but I haven't voted 'good' for anything I couldn't make a decent hack at.

Just in case I should get it, can someone tell me or else find a link explaining who "Santa Claws (the one from Futurama)" is, and what his characteristics are? All Google seems to get me is a picture of Zoidburg holding a crab.

relpatseht
Member #5,034
September 2004
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Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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He's nasty! So a game featuring Santa Claws would involve a Santa dressed robot with guns shooting at things?



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