Wow, my sentance seemed to continue as well. Interesting how that works eh?

No. It's not. So?

KC and I were discussing a similar situation. KC mentioned pot, I responded, and you quoted my discussion with KC and joined the conversation. Don't quote me in another conversation and try to join when you have no idea what we're talking about, please.

Personally I trust my law enforcement officials not to shoot me if I am following their directions.

No, it doesn't. So?

Exactly. It wasn't because he ran, it was because it appeared that he was desperately trying to get on that train.

Yeah but the point here isn't what a terrorist would do, but why the man was shot.

You must live in a really crappy country. The police here are great We dont even have a death penalty, or a real "life" sentance, its like 25 years, and you can only ever get one at a time unlike some places where you can get multiple 80yr terms

A group of people all with fire arms ask you to stop. Not just one, but many? What do you do?

And as someone FROM England mentioned, plain clothed officers still have some form of identification (police is written on thier "tunics").

Yes, I lived in a city where police brutality and shootings of innocent people was pretty common. So its not hard for me to think that "civilized" britain would never have rotten cops too.

My point was, they should have known he wasn't a terrorist( or at least a chance that he wasn't) simply because he RISKED getting to the train. A terrorist would have thought he wouldn't get a chance and just detonated on the spot.

But I have, its not as if the US is the only country with bad cops.

A deterrant? Threatening suicide bombers with death? Doesn't seem that effective to me...

Yes. You. Can. You can't go around killing people on loose suspicions. Despite what the world's politicians want you to believe, terrorism is no different from any other crime...

(Ran to get away from armed men. But we've been over that already.)
Oh, so laws and rights change depending on what day it is? Unless you declare martial law, you have the same right to be on the streets and act as odd as you like as you always have. No matter what happened the day before.

Once again, wearing "suspicious clothing" should NOT carry a death sentence.

And once again I wonder how anyone could think it's better to be afraid of being killed by the police for no good reason than being afraid of being killed by a terrorist for no good reason...

I suppose we should give up all our liberties and will to survive since it means we're terrorists if we do anything odd and try to run to save ourselves.

Ok, I may have presented my case badly. I didn't mean to make it sound like he it was the future. I'm just saying the cops shouldn't have shot him because he tried to save himself and the cops were obviously incredibly stupid and not doing their job by stopping him before-hand. But you already agreed to that but still think its ok for cops to shoot random guys for being odd.

I disagree. He didn't just run is the point, he tried to get on a train. If he had of run out of the station he probably wouldn't have been shot. Those cops were thinking "damn, he's run....OH SH*T, HE'S TRYING TO GET ON THE TRAIN TO BLOW IT....SHOOT HIM, QUICK"

They didn't think he wanted to live. They thought he wanted to kill himself on the train.

It doesn't.

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No more feeding the troll for me

I point you to my other post, I would wear heavy jackets in warm weather and I would run from strangers with guns. I'm pretty sure that doesn't constitute terrorist behavior.

Off to bed I go.

Well if I was TRAILING him the whole damn day, you'd think I would stop him BEFORE he even left his block.