I wanted to go back to this one...

And what were they planning to do when they confronted him? If he was intent on blowing something up, he would blow something... whether it's when police box him in, when he stops when confronted, or when he got on the train. If they really believed he was going to bomb, they would've had to shoot him anyway. You're not likely to convince a suicide bomber to not blow himself up.

Well, if we go from the scenario I made before about me with a bunch of pot, I would run. If I stay, my life will definitely be over. If I get away, there's a chance I can save myself. I'd rather take the chance than give up.

Can you all explain to me how you think its ok to shoot a man when he reaches a populated area but not to stop him as soon as he leaves his home.

And if you don't think its ok, then why don't you think the cops should be tried for dereliction of duty and tried for murder?

The situation you put me in is NOT the same as what happened. They trailed him the whole day, LET him get to a populated area, which constitutes dereliction of duty which in itself is a crime.

Here's my thinking, but this is sort of irrelevant unless we get a terrorist to tell us what he would do
The train is the goal. He would probably figure that the confrontation is not likely to stop him from getting to a better area (the train). However, if he is boxed in there are no more options. Boom.

That is what we call cops not doing their job. I'm sure their job is to PREVENT him from getting anywhere, which they WILLINGLY did not do.

And please reply to this:

I'm sure the guy thought the same thing.

Police protocol is to not shoot unless I'm being an obvious danger to innocent civilians or the cops themselves. Running away from the cops is obviously not going to put them in danger, and running thorugh a crowd is not an obvious danger, either. And knowing they're police is all the more reason to believe they wouldn't shoot.

hmm.. running to a train (which was the target of several bombings) carrying a bag, wearing suspicious clothing, ignoring police instructions? Right. Lets all start doing that.

Perhaps we should, to show the terrorists we're not afraid of making fun of them. Oh wait...

They did try to stop him once they knew thats where he was going

They tried to stop him BEFORE he reached it, then he ran.

I mean that I actually don't, though. Not that I think I don't

I live in a small city, I generally don't wear suspicious clothing although I have been known to wear all black. I always stop when confronted by police. I was born in the country I live in. I do not parcitipate in any criminal activities. I live in my house, which I own, with my family, in a middle class area. I have never left the country. I work for a local business. I do not have any criminal record. Even my winter coat is relatively thin, but I do not where it during the summer.

Did I miss anything?

So they had enough "evidence" to see him as a suspect but not do anything. Especially when people are being held with no lawyer and with no charges, like I said, it isn't holding up.

It is also common now to hold a person on no charges if they are suspect of being a terrorist or helping one, but yet you think they didn't have enough evidence to do anything. Seems contradictory to me.

Like I said before, thats an example of cops not doing their job. And in Britain, I think its 13 days that you can be held( I THINK, I know theyre going to increase it to 1 month).

So, in a country where you can be held on no charges if suspect of being a terrorist, they let him walk out of the house with a heavy jacket. Seems a bit odd for intelligent police behavior.

Now I really do have to sleep.