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My Life is Ruled By Quantum Mechanics
Karadoc ~~
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September 2002
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In the next week, I have two QM exams; and these aren't the ordinary garden varity exams, these are the full-blown real deal.
Each exam goes from 10am to 5pm, I've never sat an exam which was that long.

For the last few weeks, my life has been nothing but QM.
Kets
Bras
Operators in the Schrodinger picture
Operators in the Heisenberg picture
Operators in the Interaction picture
Commutators
Anti-commutators
Eigen states
Eigen values
Complete sets of states
Cartesian tensors
Irreducable spherical tensors
Spin 1/2, 1 and 0 particles
The Dirac equation
The Schrodinger equation
The Klein-Gordon equation
The Gross-Pettaevskii equation
Hilbert space
Fock Space
Position space wavefunctions
Momentum space wavefunctions
Dirac delta functions & Kronecker deltas
Integrodeferential equations
Fourier transforms
Angular momentum
Clebsch-Gordon coefficients
Time Dependent Perturbation Theory
Variational Method
WKB approximation
Hartree-Fock approximation
Bogolyubov approximation
Non-relativistic approximations
Ultra-relativistic approximations
Fermi's Golden Rule (I and II)
Matrix elements
Raman Scattering
Resonant Scattering
Rayleigh Scattering
Cross sections
Scattering lengths and phase shifts
...

So, yeah.
I'm meant to be an expert on half of this stuff by Monday, and the other half by Wednesday. And of course, that list was only the stuff I could remember...

I just needed to vent a little.

Anyone here feel like talking about QM?

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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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That sucks man....hope you eat lots of food and keep your brain going! Remember to sleep!

Oscar Giner
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April 2002
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Each exam goes from 10am to 5pm, I've never sat an exam which was that long.

7 hours of exam? :o

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Anyone here feel like talking about QM?

It doesn't work ;)

Rampage
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December 2002
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My Life is Ruled By Quantum Mechanics

When the teacher enter the exam room again, will you be finished or not? Well, actually you'll be finished and not finished, in a superposition of states :o.

I've always wanted to study quantum mechanics and all that stuff, but I just never got around it. Guess I should take a second career.

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Karadoc ~~
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September 2002
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It doesn't work ;)

Sure it does! Who told you it didn't?

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Well, actually you'll be finished and not finished, in a superposition of states :o.

But we won't notice that happening, because my 'finishedness' state will become entangled with my 'pass-the-subjectness' and then with everything else that happens in the world. So it may be a superposition, but it will be a decoherent superposition.

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7 hours of exam?

Well technically there is a compulsory 1 hour lunch break. But what the hell do you do in that lunch break but think about the questions?

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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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I read The Dancing Wu-Li Masters, that was a good book.

Steve Terry
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March 2002
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Holy crap... is this for a degree in Quantum Mechanics or just a credit? That's just nuts. I've endured 3 hour exams before too, suprisingly if they say it's going to take 3 hours, you're gonna be there for all of it, no way you are gonna get out early :-/. Still 7 hours... I'm guessing it's not Multiple Choice ;D

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Oscar Giner
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Sure it does! Who told you it didn't?

Well, the smiley was there for something ;) But I won't really believe it until I see it.

But one think I've been wondering since I did a small QM course (though for me there wasn't any exam, just some exercises during the course :P) is: how will the transition from current computers to quantum computers be done? And I'm talking about security. With a quantum machine you can hack any RSA encripted connection without any problem. Also, if I understood it correctly, a secure connection must then be done using quantum mechanics, which means that a normal computer won't be able to access the data. It looks like it'll be a chaos :o

Steve Terry
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March 2002
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And I'm talking about security.

That can be prevented with 3Gigabit encryption ;D Instead of a few minutes it would take hours to decrypt ;D

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Archon
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January 2004
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how will the transition from current computers to quantum computers be done?

Isn't there many kinds of 'next generation' computers being developed?

Matthew Leverton
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I'm not impressed. :-/

Oscar Giner
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Instead of a few minutes it would take hours to decrypt

No, you got it wrong: intead of a few miliseconds it'll take a few seconds to break it ;) Actually, with a 3Gigabit encription it's even possible that a quantum computer is able to break the encription faster than the time required for a normal computer to unencrypt it knowing the key :o

Steve Terry
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Isn't there many kinds of 'next generation' computers being developed?

Yeah I recently read something about frozen light computing... very freaky. Apparently you can slow light down... to something like 5Mph :o That would just be weird to see.

OG: I was being sarcastic :-/

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Oscar Giner
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Not that I was being serious, either :P

Rick
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In the next week, I have two QM exams; and these aren't the ordinary garden varity exams, these are the full-blown real deal.
Each exam goes from 10am to 5pm, I've never sat an exam which was that long.

For the last few weeks, my life has been nothing but QM.
Kets
Bras
Operators in the Schrodinger picture
Operators in the Heisenberg picture
Operators in the Interaction picture
Commutators
Anti-commutators
Eigen states
Eigen values
Complete sets of states
Cartesian tensors
Irreducable spherical tensors
Spin 1/2, 1 and 0 particles
The Dirac equation
The Schrodinger equation
The Klein-Gordon equation
The Gross-Pettaevskii equation
Hilbert space
Fock Space
Position space wavefunctions
Momentum space wavefunctions
Dirac delta functions & Kronecker deltas
Integrodeferential equations
Fourier transforms
Angular momentum
Clebsch-Gordon coefficients
Time Dependent Perturbation Theory
Variational Method
WKB approximation
Hartree-Fock approximation
Bogolyubov approximation
Non-relativistic approximations
Ultra-relativistic approximations
Fermi's Golden Rule (I and II)
Matrix elements
Raman Scattering
Resonant Scattering
Rayleigh Scattering
Cross sections
Scattering lengths and phase shifts
...

So, yeah.
I'm meant to be an expert on half of this stuff by Monday, and the other half by Wednesday. And of course, that list was only the stuff I could remember...

I just needed to vent a little.

Anyone here feel like talking about QM?

Just think, someday you'll be dead. ;)

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Karadoc ~~
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September 2002
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how will the transition from current computers to quantum computers be done? And I'm talking about security.

I've been troubled by this as well. Surely it will be the end of internet banking and that kind of thing - is what I thought.
But there may yet be hope. I've heard that quantum cryptography is already up and running in some places. I guess that the aim is to have a worldwide network of this new unbreakable encryption by the time our dream of quantum computers is realised.

As for how fast a Q. comp. can break the current system, it completely depends of the speed of the computer! There is no way that the first generation of quantum computers will be as fast as conventional computers. The algorithms are much faster, but the computers themselves will be quite slow. (certainly not ~ GHz)

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SonShadowCat
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September 2001
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Will he really be dead if we don't see him dead? :-/

nonnus29
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August 2002
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Good luck!

My understanding is that quantum computers will only be super fast for certain problems and cryptography is one of them. They still won't be able to solve the traveling salesman problem any faster than a normal computer.

[url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing]

Goalie Ca
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July 2002
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Looks like you really do cover your bases for qm. Nice balance of math and physics :D

QM is something that is gathering my interrest more and more because of its applications in electrical/biomedical/computer engineering (my field). Physics is always a lot of work. Quite interresting even for the many who manage to pose/bs their way through (if any truly understands what they do).

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Karadoc ~~
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Holy crap... is this for a degree in Quantum Mechanics or just a credit?

The two exams are for the first two subjects in my 4 year of physics. This is the honours year of a physics major. For the first three demi-semesters I do two subjects in each. The last demi-semester is completely devoted to research for my thesis (which runs through the rest of the year as well). The subjects I'm doing are
Demi-semester 1: QM A, QM B
Demi-semester 2: Statistical Mechanics, Quantum Field Theory
Demi-semester 3: Particle Physics 2, General Relativity
and somehow I'll have to learn some stuff from 'Particle Physics 1' as well.

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That's just nuts. I've endured 3 hour exams before too, suprisingly if they say it's going to take 3 hours, you're gonna be there for all of it, no way you are gonna get out early :-/. Still 7 hours... I'm guessing it's not Multiple Choice ;D

I've heard that no one comes out of these exams before they are over...

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Trezker
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December 2001
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Those courses you're taking must be nightmarish.

Here we have 5 hour exams on the schedule, but most only stay about half the time... We just flush all our knowledge onto paper, then we think a little harder on each question, and then a third goover. If there something you haven't written by then, you wont get it out no matter how long you think.

Evert
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November 2000
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Hmm... I don't think I've had an exam that examined all my knowledge on quantum mechanics in one go. Must have been closer to four exams of three hours each over two year, but it seems to cover most of the things you listed.
A lot of the things you mentioned aren't actually that hard if your linear algebra is at the level it ought to be though.

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Demi-semester 1: QM A, QM B
Demi-semester 2: Statistical Mechanics, Quantum Field Theory
Demi-semester 3: Particle Physics 2, General Relativity

Sounds like a good curriculum! Let me know what book you use for statistical mechanics. I've a few courses on statistical mechanics and thermodynamics, and although I love the subject (at its core, astrophysics is nothing but applied non-equilibrium thermodynamics), I have yet to find a book that treats the subject to my satisfaction. The closest thing I could find was Chandrasekhar's book on stellar structure for 1939...

Anyway, good luck with your exams! :)

Ron Ofir
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May 2002
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Wow, nice! Good luck!

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Apparently you can slow light down... to something like 5Mph :o

Actaully, they already did stop light completely.

Mars
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February 2001
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That stuff sounds cool. I can't wait to study physics.

And are seven hour exams really that bad? My final exams at school consisted of two written examinations of 300 minutes + 30 minutes to choose questions, another of 210 minutes + 30 minutes and a cheap oral one of half an hour or so.

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Archon
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January 2004
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Apparently you can slow light down... to something like 5Mph :o

Haven't 'they' been able to transport light (ie, like the Star Trek transporters)?

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