Why is it that we spend countless hours on this forum blabbing about any wish-wash and not one person makes a peep about the tens of thousands of people who suddenly died while trying to enjoy christmas vacation? Shame on you!!!

Sadly, it's gone up to 84000 deaths. I'd say that the amount injured should be ten times as much. The amount who have lost body parts should be 1/3 the amount injured.

In any case, if anyone here in Allegro wants to help (which I personally doubt), here's a number.

American Red Cross
International Response Fund
PO Box 37243
Washington, DC 20013
800-HELP-NOW
www.redcross.org

I agree with Bobo. I donated 84 dollars. It was all I could donate. I will donate again after New Year.

Why? It's demonstrate that, in big disasters, people tends to be more supportive, even if they are not affected.

Remember September 11th and March 11th: i never thought that people could be so friendly, supportive and helpful. A lesson of humanity.

Well Casco, the people here in Allegro would post about anything. The off-topics forum is always bigger than the other forums. More emphasis is put to talking about other things than game design/development itself. If people dedicate happy birthday posts and talk about their personal problems (which is something that does not concern me), I don't see why it's so hard to dedicate one simple post to honor the earthquake deaths. Maybe a post named "Dedication to Earthquake Victims" would be nice. Since this has not been done, and since people are defending themselves with statistics, why should I expect a lot of people to donate? Yanking out statistics about the thousands of people that die due to other causes is like saying that "If someone died, then who cares? You're not the only one". A different response to my first question would have been more appropriate. Saying that is just plain cold hearted. Since a number of Allegro members act this way, I don't see why I shouldn't doubt people will not donate.

Regarding the donation centers, there are many out there. I just mentioned the red cross because a close friend of mine works there. Any other center would be fine.

There was only one response in this thread before you doubted that people would donate.
And as far as my first response is concerned: I was not defending myself, rather trying to find explanations why so few people post about this particular disaster.

Time for me to shake up some more action, seeing as how it seems my point was missed last time around...

This is what annoys me:

Looking at facts, we quickly realize that tens of thousands of people die every day as it is. Shame on you, dear Bobo, for not mentioning these every day and not mourning for them like you do with the tsunami victims! And how dare you attempt to shame us for not posting about the tsunami victims, when you so clearly don't care enough to post about all the other thousands who die every day from starvation, disease and lack of fresh water?

I can stand not caring, and I can stand people throwing their money at the red cross, but I can't stand hypocrisy.

Simply because you work for them does not mean you can pick and choose who to mourn and who not to. Either mourn them all and make a post everyday, or don't say anything.

And then there are millions of people who have had these houses completely destroyed. They are walking around with nothing but the clothes on their backs, I hear there isn't all that much food to hand out to people either. Many people will die from all sorts sickness that come with being cold, homeless and hungry.

So what are you saying? That since a lot of other people die in a lot of other ways, this doesn't matter? That all these people are made less important by the numbers involved in car crashes? It doesn't matter if zero people have died in car crashes or 1000,000 people; the significance of the tsunami is the same. They are unrelated events.

80,000 people in a day vs 41,000 people in a year is not 'like a drop of water in the ocean'. The concentration of this destruction makes for chaos. The damage is far worse than just the body-count.

I don't mean to sound flamey, I just wanted to try to remind people that this is a big thing. If it happened in your country you would see that it is a big thing.

Just because it isn't talked about.... sigh....
Some people do not talk about the good things they do. It's a sign of humility.
And besides, donations shouldn't be made every time you hear something on CNN. Try donating regularly to a good cause.

Honestly, I thought the people here would be more informed on the tragic events. We all know about it. No reason to do collective mourning.. that's what IRC is for.

I could tell you people about my realitives who were off the shoreline of India at the time, but, it wouldn't do any good. When you're starving to death in a 3rd world country while suffering from a number of viruses that are spreading like lightning, you'll begin to see that having people 'care' and 'mourn' about you really doesn't help. Repeat: Does not help.

Money is what makes the world go around.
Ironically, the earth's orbit was slightly affected by the events. Since the world was changed in it's around-like motion (er, I mean orbit,) more money. Sort of. Just look at how much supplies are being bought. Power generators, food, bottled water by the truckload, .. etc. What's bad for the majority is good for the economy unless it's the economy being bad itself resulting in a market crash(?). Woo. I make zero sense.

X-G: You get flamed whenever something like this happens. Instead of using sarcasm or subtle hints of your viewpoints and why somebody elses isn't exactly 'quallified', why not explain down to the last detail? It'd make everybody's time much easier slash no more large abundant amount of post restrictions on your behalf.

Caring helps, mourning doesn't. If you care, you help in any way you can, but I can't see a way to relate 'mourn' and 'help'.

Aren't they at war over there too? Talk about your bad luck.