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KrampusHack 2021 - secret santa style game jam
Elias
Member #358
May 2000

OK! I have replaced the icons with stylized versions from off the TINS website. I also added some more languages for Elias

Yay, thank you! Now I can use Python!!!

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Mark Oates
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Do you use Python? To game code?

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Elias
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May 2000

I might, I've done so in the past and Allegro ships Python bindings. But probably I'll use my old Python-to-C transpiler which I used for the past several TINS/Krampushacks - the code still looks like Python so I'll ignore that you removed the C icon.

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Mark Oates
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amarillion, it might be a good idea to post this in a the depot forums or something. For non-logged in users, they won't see this thread.

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amarillion
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January 2001
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amarillion, it might be a good idea to post this in a the depot forums or something. For non-logged in users, they won't see this thread.

Well, what would really help in this regard if we could post news messages on the a.cc front page again, but that didn't happen the last three times I submitted Speedhack announcements.

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I have a different question for you guys. How would you feel if I started a little Discord channel for TINS/KrampusHack?

I've been on the fence about this. On the one hand, it will compete with the existing communication channels (IRC and the TINS logs). On the other hand, IRC is really for old geezers and we need some fresh blood. From the Amsterdam Meetup Group I noticed that there is a lot of organic traffic coming into Discord, so it might be an nice way to passively get more members into the community over the course of the year.

It would be optional and a side channel (just like IRC). It would not replace TINS logs.

So Discord Yay or Nay?

Mark Oates
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March 2001
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Yea discord would be cool. If there were some way to integrate the two (some kind of dischord/irc integration or bot) that would be ideal. I might have both open.

I honestly don't know much about Dischord. I installed it once when I was looki g for insider info on scheduling a vaccine, and I found it very noisy and tbh I couldn't figure out what the appeal was. I used slack at work, I liked that.

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MiquelFire
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January 2003
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As far as it being noisy, that depends on the server you connect to.

The TINS/KrampusHack might not be much noisier than these forums to begin with.

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RmBeer2
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@amarillion :
Is it a bad idea. IRC is not for old people, fashion here is of no interest at all.
I would understand better if you used the other social networks to bring people to IRC, your TINS site, and in the forum, like i do in reddit (I'm posting things there, including TINS).

But Discord is dead, I don't see people there, just like the matrix and telegram, all dead. I think aggressive advertising collapses any mind, making it believe that they are popular, crowded and very fashionable.

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MiquelFire
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I think you saying it's dead is related to the servers you're apart of.

From my POV (And I guess Mark), this site is dead compared to Discord. I often see way too much talking going on that I can't keep up and just skip a lot of conversions. I hate when I go on and see that somehow between visits, there's more than 100 messages that were posted (even more annoying when it was only a couple of hours between visits, but understandable when sleep and going to work is the reason between long gaps between visits)

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Mark Oates
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I posted my wish list rules on the KrampusHack website ✅. These were my rules:

  • Invincibility or Death - You must choose between a game design where either 1) the player can only die once and then must restart the game from the beginning, or 2) the player will remain alive throughout the whole game and no action can result in death or restarting the game, until the very end. No lives, restore states, or save points. (For clarity, you may only choose one of these designs for your game, and not allow the player to choose between the two within the game, for example).

  • Thingadex - Your game should include a gameplay mechanic where you collect multiple things and record them in an encyclopedia or index where you can view and read about the items you collected. You might even include an achievement if your player catches them all!

  • Always Be Learning - Explore some new game design or programming technique that you are not familiar with. A 3D game, turn-based battle style gameplay, etc. Try something you haven’t done before.

Before choosing these, my GF and I brainstormed a list of ideas. In addition to the ones we chose above, we also came up the ones listed below. If you're having trouble coming up with some wish rules, maybe you can use these as inspiration (or you can choose them outright, if you want, no matter to me :) ). Here are the rules we ended up not using:

Krampus Hack 2021 Wishlist Ideas

Technical

  • Always Ready to Ship - The game you're making should always be a working game. It may suck, it may be lame during development, but it’s always playable and ready for production. You might start with only a simple gameplay mechanism, then build on it iteratively until the end of the hackathon.

  • Component Based Design - Your game’s objects should be encapsulated into a lot of small classes that have few responsibilities. Avoid packing a lot of features into a single class, and prefer splitting a monolith into several smaller classes. For inspiration, you might watch Sandi Metz talk All the Little Things. If you’re not using object-oriented programming, you can omit this rule.

Creative / Artistic

  • Rule of Thirds - Timing is everything. Things in the game should happen in threes. Three levels in a world, three evolutions in the final boss, three upgrades to the master sword, anything goes. The rule does not have to apply to everything, only a few key elements of your core game’s mechanic.

  • Costume Change - Allow the player to customize character(s), either throughout the game or in the beginning. The customizations should not affect the gameplay in any significant way (though other characters or game elements might comment on it).

  • Music Changes - Music should change according to the environment, or different things that are happening in the game. Even slight changes, a fighting game comes down to the last punch and the music pumps up, the last lap in the racing game jumps up the tempo are some good examples.

Genre

  • Multiple Choice - The gameplay should involve choosing from multiple options. Choose your own adventure options, dialog response options, outfits, are a few examples.

  • Mythical Fantasy - Your game should be based in a mythical fantasy world. Uninhabited by humans, your setting is in magic and nature, and is a part of the living forests, waters, beasts, and fairies.

  • Multiple Endings - The game should have different endings depending on choices that were made throughout the game. Some examples: a good happy ending (everyone is happy), a bad ending (everyone dies, your friend betrays you), a true ending (realistic conclusion, your friends go their separate ways). Depending on the ending, it may even result in additional gameplay.

Miscellaneous

  • Act of Cat - You can remove any other rule if you include a pink cat as an easter egg somewhere in your game, either as an item, or element in a room, etc.

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amarillion
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January 2001
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I posted my wish list rules on the KrampusHack website

Nice! It seems like you put a lot of thought in your wishlist. A lot of these rules could easily double as TINS rules. My own approach to wishlist writing was more spur of the moment, like... what would I like to have / play myself?

How does your GF feel about the whole KrampusHack thing? Is she invested now?

RmBeer2 said:

@amarillion :
Is it a bad idea. IRC is not for old people, fashion here is of no interest at all.
I would understand better if you used the other social networks to bring people to IRC, your TINS site, and in the forum, like i do in reddit (I'm posting things there, including TINS).

But Discord is dead, I don't see people there, just like the matrix and telegram, all dead. I think aggressive advertising collapses any mind, making it believe that they are popular, crowded and very fashionable.

Firstly, the decline of IRC in general is beyond dispute:

wikipedia said:

IRC reached 6 million simultaneous users in 2001 and 10 million users in 2003, dropping to 371k in 2018.[citation needed]

As of September 2021, the largest IRC networks are:

Libera Chat – around 47k users at peak hours
IRCnet – around 20k users at peak hours
Undernet – around 15k users at peak hours
OFTC – around 14k users at peak hours
EFnet – around 12k users at peak hours
Rizon – around 11k users at peak hours
QuakeNet – around 10k users at peak hours
DALnet – around 8k users at peak hours

The top 100 IRC networks have around 220k users connected at peak hours.[27]

By comparison, Discord publishes figures like 50M concurrent users and 150M monthly users. I also note that with the recent freenode/libera split, the popularity of the #allegro channel has declined significantly. A lot of people never made the transition.

But look at the big picture. We all have to prioritize different goals in life. Here are some relevant goals to think about:

1. Do we want to attract newcomers to the Allegro community and further the cause of Allegro?
2. Do we want to attract newcomers to the TINS / KrampusHack / Speedhack and make these events more lively?
3. Do we want to bring more uses to the #allegro IRC channel and make it more vibrant?

Note that these goals do not overlap necessarily. You can achieve one of these goals and completely fail to achieve the others. Personally, goals 1 and 2 have my attention, but I don't care much for goal 3. So if opening a Discord channel would make KrampusHack more successful but would hurt the IRC channel, then I see that as an acceptable loss.

So I probably will open a Discord channel, as an optional side channel, and I'll just let it fly low for a while and see what kind of traction it gets.

Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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Discord is all right, but let's make sure it stays on topic and only has a few channels. I tried Discord with the Zelda remake team, and it was a massive cluster fsck. I couldn't navigate the thing and it turned me off to discord in general.

amarillion
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January 2001
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Sure, I don't think we need more than 1 channel.

Edgar Reynaldo
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amarillion
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January 2001
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Allright, I just set it up. Use this invitation link to our Discord server: https://discord.gg/7uK6jNtNX9

MiquelFire
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January 2003
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You'll almost always want at least 2 channels if you want an active server, one on topic, and one off topic.

Once I'm home, I'll join the server.

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Mark Oates
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March 2001
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How does your GF feel about the whole KrampusHack thing? Is she invested now?

Perhaps :)

I got my secret santa. I joined the dischord. Did some warmup coding over the past couple days. Got some ideas and going to get started.

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amarillion
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You'll almost always want at least 2 channels if you want an active server, one on topic, and one off topic.

What do you call an active server?

It's pretty good right now with 11 members, but that's probably the level where it will stay for the time being.

MiquelFire
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January 2003
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I would say how active a server is would be dependent on how much people talk.

For example, an active server might have 5 people, but the purpose of the server results in more than 100 messages a day, but an inactive might have hundreds of people, but the subject of the server only sees activity every other month, and even then, it's rarely more than 10 messages a day during the active times.

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RmBeer2
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NO NO NO AND NO!!!!!!! WHAT FAULT DO WE HAVE THAT THEY DON'T ADAPT TO US?????????? FORGET ABOUT DISCORD, NEVER TO TOUCH THEM, LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT SERVER IS THE WORST!!!!!!!

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