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Is the GW in MinGw same as GW in GWBasic
AceBlkwell
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July 2011
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I got to wondering about something today and thought someone on here might have a clue.

Is the GW in MinGW same as GW in GW Basic. And before the jokes fly, yes I know it's the same letters. I mean is the organization responsible for MinGW the same group that made DOS based GWBasic. I don't know if there is an recent GWBasic line interpreter. So my theory was that the company moved to C / C++ compilers

Just curious.

bamccaig
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Mark Oates
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LennyLen
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December 2004
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bamccaig said:

No, GW Basic has nothing to do with GNU.

Also, GW-Basic came out quite a while before Windows did.

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Ariesnl
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out of memory in 200 ;D
It even had commands to control cassette tape input and output

I recall a GWBasic demo called "Genius World" maybe that has something to do with it ?

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AceBlkwell
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Commodore64 Basic was my first taste of programming but it was more copying what was in the manual than actually creating a program. GW Basic and IBMs Basica were my first language. Thought it was cool to create a BAT file to load basic and program. I would then have the program call the SYSTEM command on exit. It would then drop back out to BAT file. The BAT would clear the screen and echo a one liner thanking for using the program. Gave the illusion or feel of an executable. Thought I was slick at the time ;D.

In any case so there is no connection other than coincidental use of GW. Oh well, it was just a thought.

raynebc
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May 2010

TI-BASIC was my first programming language. Those fancy graphing calculators are a gateway drug to the dark side.

Edgar Reynaldo
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AceBlkwell
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Basic, was a double edge sword. It was good in that its simplicity enticed potential programmers. It was bad in that it’s simplicity hindered learning anything else. It made everything else seem unnecessarily complicated. While in college, my limited basic knowledge made understanding Cobol difficult, Fortran almost impossible, and RPG II? Forget about it. It took me three times of installing and deleting Quick C before I finally stuck with it. The setup (include files, main functions, output format) seem cumbersome. It took awhile to finally understand, with complexity, comes options.

BTW Quick C is still my favorite IDE and compiler, even came with it’s own graphics library. Too bad it’s obsolete.

DanielH
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TI-BASIC was also my first language, but for the Texas Instruments TI-99/4A basic in ~1982/83.
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MiquelFire
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My first was QBasic, but I learned TI-BASIC on my TI-86. I tried to learn ASM on it as well (never made anything useful, outside of a high score resetter for a Tetris game that was passed around)

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LennyLen
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DanielH said:

TI-BASIC was also my first language, but for the Texas Instruments TI-99/4A basic in ~1982/83.

Same. My parents bought that computer thanks to Bill Cosby.

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DanielH
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January 2001
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My parents bought it at a warehouse club (Price Club - which is now Costco).

We had the basic system no drives. Had to use cassette tapes to save programs.

BTW, TI Invaders is one of the best Space Invaders games out there. Loved that game.

AceBlkwell
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First computer was a Commodore 64 I got at a yard sale for 50 bucks. Used 13 color TV as monitor. Didn’t take long to realize I needed to keep the floppy away from TV/monitor.
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bamccaig
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My first real computer was a Pentium, I think, running Windows 95. :-[ My mom had to save up for months to afford it (I think it set her back something like $4000 at the time). We played some silly kids games on it, but nothing awesome.

I didn't know programming was a thing until I was assigned some optional class I was afraid to take in grade 12 (can't remember what now), and friends told me about a computer science class that I should swap it for, and so I did. The class was basically an introduction to programming in C++. Great class. The teacher didn't lecture or anything. They lent us textbooks supplied by the high school, and the teacher just assigned us reading and exercises from the book. Some students complained that the teacher didn't do anything, but for myself it was the perfect class. No human interaction at all. Just messing with the computer. I loved it. If it wasn't for that little accident I don't know what I'd be doing right now.

The best college courses had the same format. Read these chapters from the textbook (we had to pay for the textbook this time, obviously) and do these exercises. And then the odd test. It was lots of fun, and easy to do. Of course, you had the same people that probably should have picked another field complaining that the instructor wasn't doing anything, and complaining that it was too hard... ::)

GullRaDriel
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September 2003
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MinGW stands for Minimalist GNU for Windows. Final point.

;D

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MiquelFire
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My dad had an IBM PS/2 running Windows 3.0 :P

But the main computer I remember running was a 486 with Windows 3.1

As far as a computer I could call my own, a friend of my dad gave him some parts (he was moving overseas) and I put it together. It was a Pentium. Forgot what OS was on it. But the first computer I bought and built was a Pentium 3 with Windows 98 SE (The bad about ME was widespread enough for me to avoid it). I think a hard drive crash (or something just messing with the MBR when it wasn't supposed to and wiping it while I was using the computer) resulted in my getting XP for that machine.

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AceBlkwell
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Over the years I’ve have several desktops and laptops, but my fav has always been the IBM 8573 P70 luggable (PS/2 Micro-channel) which I still have. It’s a 386 with a 387 math-co processor, 4 meg ram and 40 meg hard drive. It has a VGA gas plasma screen & runs DOS 6.2 with Windows 3.1. I fire it up a few times a week just to make sure everything is still working.

As for Win ME. It think it got a bad rap by hard core users / business ITs. I ran it for a few years, I liked it well enough. Never had anymore issues with it than any other WinOS I ran.

GullRaDriel
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I started to get into computing with a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_500 and to gaming with a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectrex

Then I got a 286, 486, a citrix 133, and so on. I've also played with some old cards like voodoo series, with glide as a 3d driver.

Edit: when I first used 3DStudio it was a fullscreen dos program, I miss that version.

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AceBlkwell
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July 2011
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At the time I really hoping Amiga was going to put Commodore back in the PC game. Read up on Vextex. Sounds cool. I had the typical Intellivision and Atari setups. As my 4 sons came along and grew up, we had all the rest starting with NES. I personally quit keeping up after NES. However, wife and sons bought me a Switch (I like being portable). Now that thing is sweet.

As for programming, with a wife and 4 boys ( and a bit of a lazy streak) I never became the hacker I dreamed of being. I program mainly to learn something new or to test a theory, not necessarily for the outcome product.

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