Way to miss the point and lash back with useless hyperbole.

So I guess you were agreeing with me... my sarcasm detector is a little off it seems. Hardly to be unexpected with you playing Devil's advocate all this time.

This is amusing. A bunch of people rant on social media that they've been harassed or assaulted and the world is supposed to believe that America is burning in the streets. On the other hand, maybe the Trump haters are just following the social justice handbook and crying because they didn't get their way.

While I'm not doubting that there is hate and violence going on, it always has, and it always was. Especially in America. It's part of the goddamn culture. Trump did not create that. Trump is not responsible for it. Take responsibility for yourselves, and for fucks sake hold people accountable for their own actions. Blaming Trump for this is excusing their own actions. You're essentially apologizing for them.

That is, assuming any of this stuff is actually happening. Twitter posts are evidence of nothing, and the only video I've seen was of a white man being assaulted by several black people while getting cheered on by onlookers (although, to be fair, I haven't look for anything, and only seen what was posted here). That doesn't exactly look very good for the "oppressed" side. Way to stay classy, America.

It's actually not amusing. It's sickening. Get your shit together. You're not children. Stop acting like it.

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As for the "grab her by the pussy" comment, that seems completely harmless to me. I cannot fathom why people would make such a big deal about it (assuming the video that Derezo posted was all of it).

I was not referring specifically to the Democrats as "oppressed". I was referring more specifically to in this instance, black people. While they are arguably oppressed in America still, the video evidence above does not suggest it. They're apparently not afraid to gang up on an unarmed (from what I could tell) man in the street, and even be caught on camera doing it (presumably, by their own peers since the people behind the camera seemed to be cheering it on). I don't suppose an oppressed class would do this unless they were suicidal (although, I guess it could also be explained by a lack of education).

I've said it before and I'll say it again. "Left" or "right", "democrat" or "republican", "conservative" or "liberal". It's all completely fucking irrelevant. These are just labels and loose groupings of people that try to use tricks to get themselves into power. If you attach yourself strongly to any such label then you're just another puppet on strings. You'll be doomed to be tricked into empowering bad ideas. The political power is much bigger than a label, and regardless of which candidate gets elected the orders are likely coming from the same people: the extremely rich.

If racism exists in America today on such a large scale then shame on you. Of course, we've discussed on numerous occasions the many social issues plaguing the USA. The education system is knowingly shit compared to most of the developed world, and it seems to show in all aspects of American life. There are plenty of smart Americans, but on average? If they compare to other developed nations' citizenry then they certainly have a funny way of showing it.

Once again, none of it matters. It's smoke and mirrors. It has nothing to do with Trump. There are certainly social issues, but Trump is not responsible. They're nothing new. Fix your shit and stop making excuses.

The problem with "sexual assault" is that it's only assault if the receiver decides that it is. And there's a very complex bit of verbal and non-verbal communication that goes along with it. It's by no means trivial or black and white.

Many women very much do not like guys to "ask permission" to kiss or touch. They want guys to be bold. Of course, if they like the guy then all is well. If they don't like the guy it's rape. This obviously puts men in a very difficult position. It's human nature, and unfortunately I don't think there's a simple solution. The most obvious solution to me would be to ask women to overcome their nature, and simply communicate straightly. Apparently that doesn't work for them though. The uncertainty is part of the chase and part of what makes them attracted to you (and it varies woman to woman, relationship to relationship). The alternative solution is to teach women to protect themselves by avoiding situations that they don't want to be in. Obviously, having protective men around women will help to temper daring boys and help to keep things under control. Unfortunately, the modern way of thinking about it is that women don't need that. Instead, we encourage girls to take care of themselves, ignoring the fact that they simply can't.

What I distinctly remember in elementary school and high school was that the very guys that were bold and "touched" without permission were the guys that the girls liked and rewarded. The nice guys got nothing. The expression "nice guys finish last" is absolutely true. Women do not like nice guys. Certainly not young women.

This is the ultimate downfall of Feminism. It doesn't fit. It doesn't work like that. No amount of political pressure can make it work. It goes against human nature. That's why the "bad boys" are always on top. It's not very fair, but then life isn't fair.

More violent rioting, courtesy of the hateful, sore-loser brigade:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/index.html

But real violence supposedly pales in comparison to online posts about how people were spoken meanly to, doesn't it?

Ray: You appear to misunderstand the relationship between citizens and government/power. It is always, without exception, caveat emptor and vigilance. There should never be a period of grace.

Before Trump hate was part of the culture, but never before has it been so open and care free. Trump has enabled all of this behavior. Yes the people who take part in it are responsible for their own actions, but Trump is still responsible for making everyone feel okay about committing hate crimes. Trump won the presidency, and the very next day, people are spreading hate everywhere. Muslims are afraid to wear their veils. Immigrants are afraid of being deported. Blacks are in fear of their lives. Women have lost the right to respect of their person. And this is just in the first few days after Trump has been elected. Trump has caused a sweeping change in the attitudes of people about what is okay and what is not. Trump is clearly to blame for enabling this wave of hatred. If you can't see that, you're a brain dead brain washed idiot.

That's clearly defined as sexual harassment and if he did it, it would be sexual assault. Donald Trump is a sexist, racist pig, and anyone who follows him is one too. What he said is not "completely harmless". It's not "locker talk". It's not okay. It's demeaning, intrusive, sexist, and evil. Women deserve respect, not to be treated like property or your favorite sex toy.

Of course you're right, they're just being mean. Oh wait, actually they're threatening people's lives :

This is just a taste of what happened yesterday. And you're going to sit there and say they're just being mean? Like it's a fucking joke?

No, stuff like that doesn't happen every day. America is (was) for the most part very civil. Trump's win has started backlashes against minorities all over the country. I don't pick up on news because it' convenient for me.

Absolutely, violence is equally deplorable on both sides. As such, as it's not a particularly valuable variable in discussions like this - there is no point, it's a given.

If you read that twitter feed, you would see there's plenty of physical evidence. Do you honestly think that there is some mass conspiracy to fake evidence against Trump? Did you see the graffiti on that man's car? Did you see the other graffiti? Do you really think people are making this stuff up? I thought you were brighter than that. Your faith in Trump and his agenda are truly disappointing. Kids chanting racist slurs and people telling native born Americans to "go back to their own country"?

I agree, but there comes a breaking point. The KKK publically endorsed Trump because they know he's a racist. That there is a backlash from angry black people is no surprise. Again, I don't condone what the people in that video did.

They're his followers. They're following his lead. The blame rests on him for inciting racism and sexism.

Sent from my bubble.