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Annexing Uktaine. Objections?
Thomas Fjellstrom
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type568
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March 2007
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How ironic.. It looks like this thread name is getting quite prophetic. Of course not all of Ukraine, the west doesn't want it. But the eastern parts of Ukraine seem to be quite cheering for it.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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It seems more like passive aggressive joking to me.

The "citizens" that invaded govt buildings most recently were actually Russian, not Ukrainian. And they had the gall to try and call for a referendum. Last I heard not to many actual citizens were actually for a full out splitting.

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type568
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How do you differentiate or understand if they're Russian or Ukrainian? All of eastern Ukraine is Russian speaking. Dual citizenship is allowed for both countries if I'm not wrong.

And while Crimean self defense forces were clearly professional, and not risking anything the current situation for the occupiers in east Ukraine is do or die. Hard to imagine them being Russian soldiers. Really.

And the U.S. position is really disgusting with its clear dual standards of support of temporary government(which came in by force) that revokes official status of Russian language, but blaming Russia in organizing protests against this nonsense.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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type568 said:

How do you differentiate or understand if they're Russian or Ukrainian? All of eastern Ukraine is Russian speaking.

They were asked, and said they were Russian. (outside of Crimea/Ukraine)

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Dual citizenship is allowed for both countries if I'm not wrong.

Not in Crimea it seems. If you want the Russian passport, you have to give up your Ukrainian. If you want to keep your Ukrainian passport, you have to leave.

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Johan Halmén
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September 2001

type568 said:

It looks like this thread name is getting quite prophetic.

Annexing Octaine? Octane? It's a gas pipeline, not a gasoline pipeline.

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type568
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@Thomas

Source statements both please. Well, I'll try to find myself if you won't. But if you say it, I guess you can do it more easily. I'm not even trying ot prove you wrong, I'd like to know.

Oh, and.. If few of'em are Russians, it maybe. The idea seems more than legit for Russian speaking population anywhere.

@Johan

Heh. I noticed the typo after some time, but didn't think it THAT way :D



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