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Online password managers?
Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Elias said:

access to my work computers harddrive

Well there's your problem right there.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

SiegeLord
Member #7,827
October 2006
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Elias said:

I am using a key, but anyone with access to my work computers harddrive as well as the NSA have it as well :p

That could be a good thing ;)... "I didn't download all these movies and music, someone ssh'd into my computer and did it!"

More seriously, why not password protect that key? I recently switched to using password protected ssh keys for exactly that reason... it's a bit of a pain to use ssh-agent all the time, but I find that I feel a lot safer.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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SiegeLord said:

More seriously, why not password protect that key? I recently switched to using password protected ssh keys for exactly that reason... it's a bit of a pain to use ssh-agent all the time, but I find that I feel a lot safer.

Yeah, but you lose the automation factor of not having to enter a password.

But in general, if your computer is physically compromised, a password on the key file isn't going to help you. Even if your password file has a 16368-bit cipher, it won't help if it's already logged in!

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OnlineCop
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October 2006
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My work bought me a new Macbook Pro, which I wiped and reinstalled the OS. I take it home with me every day, and I'm paranoid enough to always lock my screen whenever I walk away (it's nice to have a hotkey to lock the desktop).

So I'm pretty confident that none of my co-workers have accessed my laptop and obtained my private key. My router only accepts SSH on a specific port (something like 16666 or some other) and it denies all SSH requests that don't already have a key pair set up.

The router forwards that port to 22, through which I connect to my home computer.

It's very possible that I've forgotten something and have already been hacked, but I never do anything illegal from that work computer anyway (I just want to use it to remain anonymous :-/ ).

If you guys have suggestions on how to be more secure, I'm all ears. I figure you can always be paranoid, but can you be paranoid enough? ;D

SiegeLord
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October 2006
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Yeah, but you lose the automation factor of not having to enter a password.

You enter it once per session (or, if you set a time out, only every couple or so minutes). Either way, there's more to using public key login than just convenience.

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Even if your password file has a 16368-bit cipher, it won't help if it's already logged in!

ssh-agent has a timeout option, and so does Keepass (which is what I use for my password management). You could also always manually log out if you hear the partyvan pull up.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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OnlineCop said:

My work bought me a new Macbook Pro, which I wiped and reinstalled the OS. I take it home with me every day, and I'm paranoid enough to always lock my screen whenever I walk away (it's nice to have a hotkey to lock the desktop).

If you have a Mac, thanks to the absurd hyper-valuation of mac products (both new and as old as the Apple II!), you're biggest problem with your Mac is it being physically stolen and sold at a pawn shop/flea market/directly-to-college-kids. The computer itself is a thousand times more valuable and easy to access than anything you might have on your computer.

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Elias
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May 2000

The computer itself is a thousand times more valuable and easy to access than anything you might have on your computer.

On my work laptop it's the opposite. The computer itself is maybe 1000€, my boss' secret code on there is (at least according to him) worth millions.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Elias said:

On my work laptop it's the opposite. The computer itself is maybe 1000€, my boss' secret code on there is (at least according to him) worth millions.

That's what I'm getting at. Security is application dependant.

My laptop is a lot harder to steal:

http://oldcomputers.net/pics/compaqI.JPG

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