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This is wrong on so many levels...
Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/30/powerful-flame-cyberweapon-tied-to-powerfully-angry-birds/

I know it's Fox News and all that, but even then it's so horribly bad and wrong and misleading that someone deserved to be fired for this article.

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Yeah, we have been discussing it in cplusplus.com too (http://cplusplus.com/forum/lounge/72211/)

Elias
Member #358
May 2000

I'm not surprised those birds escaped, it had to happen sooner or later with millions of installations of the game. And now set free in the internet of course they continue to target pigs because that's what they were programmed to do.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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I know it's Fox News and all that, but even then it's so horribly bad and wrong and misleading that someone deserved to be fired for this article.

Eh? He or she deserves a raise. There's nothing untruthful about the statement, and obviously it's getting nerds to read and discuss the article. The goal of a non-public news organization is to make money and/or promote agendas.

torhu
Member #2,727
September 2002
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Allow me to be Captain Obvious here: The best way to handle things like that is by NOT linking to it. Cause, you know, that's what they would like you to do ;D

Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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There's nothing untruthful about the statement, and obviously it's getting nerds to read and discuss the article.

It's technically correct, but there's more to journalist ethics than that. It suggests that the fact that both Angry Birds and Flame were written in Lua somehow connects the two, abusing the general public's lack of technical knowledge. The argument is about as meaningful as "the victim was stabbed with a knife made of steel, the same material used in popular toys", only that practically everybody knows what steel is.

And, even more subtly, it mentions that Lua stems from a game programming background; even though no clear accusations are made, it cleverly connects video games with computer malware, terrorism, and real-world warfare.

No, there is nothing in there that is provably wrong, but you can't tell me someone who writes for a news corporation as heavily funded as Fox doesn't know exactly what they're doing. She's acting in the company's best commercial interest, sure, but it's still wrong and unethical and deserves punishment.

Also, it's quite hilarious. Best reading I've had from Fox in a while.

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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It is kind of interesting that being written in Lua makes it harder to detect on account of it being an unusual choice to write malware in. That's about the only useful nugget I got out of the article and I have no idea if it's true or not, mind ...

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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It's technically correct, but there's more to journalist ethics than that.

I'm sorry but I think you're mistaking Fox news for journalism. MOST news channels and shows have stopped actually doing proper journalism. It's all sensationalist garbage.

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_Kronk_
Member #12,347
November 2010

The ignorance of some people is absolutely astonishing.

It is kind of interesting that being written in Lua makes it harder to detect on account of it being an unusual choice to write malware in. That's about the only useful nugget I got out of the article and I have no idea if it's true or not, mind ...

I'll write my next worm in FORTRAN 8-)

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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I was just reading about this at Wired (lame, I know) where a guy that works at an AV company tries to explain some of this.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/06/internet-security-fail/

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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I read part of the fox article but stopped because it doesn't tell me anything about what this cyberweapon really is, just buzz words to scare people. What is it, a virus?

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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For fun do a Google search on "angry birds flame."

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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Man... There are articles in Spanish already... ::) That article is a virus...

Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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I'm sorry but I think you're mistaking Fox news for journalism. MOST news channels and shows have stopped actually doing proper journalism. It's all sensationalist garbage.

Go Corporate America!

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Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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Like I said on Cplusplus.com:

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The smart consumers don't bother with watching news because they would know that news (as it exists today) is nothing more than glorified gossip. Our economy is going to sh!t and they are carrying on about same sex marriage, whether Obama was born in the US, and the fighting in Syria. The news isn't true reporting or news anymore, most news stories are comparable to National Enquirer, Globe, or Daily Mail 'fictional real news' anymore. By 'fictional real news' I'm referring to the articles that claim some false truth and base it around a real on going news story, like when National Enquirer ran the article claiming to know the true murderer of JonBenet Ramsey to get their sales up (never read that article but the cover was self explanatory and obviously designed to sale their paper with false stories).

Steve Terry
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March 2002
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The hell. Just today I saw on Fox news a report on the Hubble findings on the date when the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxys will collide and the reporter stated several times that it would be the end of the Universe. Galaxies are not Universes just made him seem more and more of an idiot the more he talked.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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No kidding. It also won't be the end of the galaxy. There's a very small chance of any stars hitting each other. Also, by that time, the sun will have entered red giant stage (most likely) ending the earth as we know it (searing it to a crisp, or pushing its orbit back).

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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No kidding. It also won't be the end of the galaxy. There's a very small chance of any stars hitting each other. Also, by that time, the sun will have entered red giant stage (most likely) ending the earth as we know it (searing it to a crisp, or pushing its orbit back).

This is also assuming we haven't made Fallout into reality by this time (or that a plague/outbreak of some kind hasn't killed us).

Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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The smart consumers don't bother with watching news because they would know that news (as it exists today) is nothing more than glorified gossip. Our economy is going to sh!t and they are carrying on about same sex marriage, whether Obama was born in the US, and the fighting in Syria. The news isn't true reporting or news anymore, most news stories are comparable to National Enquirer, Globe, or Daily Mail 'fictional real news' anymore. By 'fictional real news' I'm referring to the articles that claim some false truth and base it around a real on going news story, like when National Enquirer ran the article claiming to know the true murderer of JonBenet Ramsey to get their sales up (never read that article but the cover was self explanatory and obviously designed to sale their paper with false stories).

The problem is that media with a monetary interest cannot be neutral - the theory says they can (most objective news broker wins the consumers in the long run), but that's not how it works. Objective is boring, unpleasant, and exhausts the brain, so it doesn't sell.

As I said earlier: Go Corporate America!

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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The problem is that media with a monetary interest cannot be neutral

Media can't even be honest let alone neutral whether there is monetary interest or not. I mean, they painted Bin Laden as a terrorist for years but they never were honest about the fact that we made him. We helped his militia rebels overthrow the ruler at that time and then left him to clean up the mess we helped make. This angered him and is what started the whole Jihad campaign on the US (which is why they are taking so long in the Middle East now because they are scared of making a new Bin Laden). Media's and news sole purpose now is to make everyone forget how bad we are getting f*cked by the government that does everything "for the people". They just forget to mention "for the people" refers to the millionaires and companies. This country was bought and paid for a long time ago by big business and the crap of you have a say in how the country is run is just an illusion. The companies and politicians just love blowing smoke up our @sses.

SonShadowCat
Member #1,548
September 2001
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Specter: That's why I've been investing in guns and ammo and hoping for a right-wing victory this fall. Maybe if we can just push the country just a little further people will finally act.

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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We would be dead if the people ever went up against the government. They have the military and sadly most the guys in the military follow orders blindly, when they haven't become obsessed with the power their position gives them (look at the police that hurt protesters, and military have more power than them). Then you figure in US allies, they have the power to become the modern day Hitler and oppress us through power if they wanted.

_Kronk_
Member #12,347
November 2010

You guys are kind of creeping me out now.

Yes, our government is crappy. But it's less crappy than many of the other governments in the world. If you want to run things your way, go claim an island in the Pacific or something.

It's like this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvKLyLgzUIk

"machines, built by machines, built by machines, built by machines, built by machines..."

It's not perfect by any stretch and often stifles our freedoms and the very essence of liberty;

...but that's human government.

(how do you embed youtube vids?)

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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_Kronk_ said:

...but that's human government.

No 'human government' was back when George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln ran the country. Now it is a corporate government that puts on the falsehood of still being a 'human government'.

23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Complacency is bad, mmmkay?[1]

(I don't know how to embed videos either. :()

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