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can you destroy a previously called void?
LennyLen
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December 2004
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Stas B. said:

The burden of proof is on you because I'm not the one making the claim.

Actually, you DID make a claim, (which is that it is easier), without justifying it. For the record, I'm not disputing that it is easier, but only pointing out that if you expect me to justify everything I say, then you must also do so.

Also, since you appear to have missed it completely, I did actually give justification for my claim in my very first post.

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If you don't even realize a simple thing like this, I'm not sure there's a point to keep up this discussion.

You keep making statements like this that indicate that you don't want to discuss this any more, yet you keep continuing to post. Why? Nobody is forcing you to, and I doubt anyone would care at all whether you post or not.

Stas B.
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March 2008

LennyLen said:

Actually, you DID make a claim, (which is that it is easier), without justifying it. For the record, I'm not disputing that it is easier, but only pointing out that if you expect me to justify everything I say, then you must also do so.

Also, since you appear to have missed it completely, I did actually give justification for my claim in my very first post.

I honestly have no idea what your point is.
There's no need to justify claims we both agree on.
We are discussing your claim that I shouldn't have offered solution X to problem Y because it counts as advocating a bad programming practice to a beginner. It's entirely up to you to prove this claim and that won't happen until you offer a proof that I can't refute. I have refuted your proofs and you have neither addressed my arguments nor offered any new proof, therefore your claim is so far unjustified.

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You keep making statements like this that indicate that you don't want to discuss this any more, yet you keep continuing to post. Why? Nobody is forcing you to, and I doubt anyone would care at all whether you post or not.

Sometimes you know better than doing something but go ahead and do it anyway. I have a weakness when it comes to unsettled arguments. :-/
All I'm saying is that you're not faring too well so far (showing ignorance of the basic principles of debate), so you should save yourself further embarrassment and save me this waste of time and quit it. I am going to mercilessly destroy any proof you offer untill you give up.

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Look, basically, you lose this one automatically.
What counts as a "proper" solution to a problem depends on the context.
Whether it is acceptable or not to show a beginner a sub-optimal solution also depends on the context.
Whether or not my post gives the misleading impression that the offered solution is THE proper way to load levels is a matter of opinion at best.
The guy is gone, the context isn't clear, whether my statement has served to mislead him isn't clear, so you technically can't prove what you need to prove to win. Go away. :-/

GibbSticks
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April 2012
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Wow good job helping out this new programmer guys, if youre going to argue and ramble on about whose right and whose wrong at least do it with private messages instead of completely destroying this guys thread.

C++, C# developer

Hitler was a fan of Chaplin. Chaplin was therefore responsible for the murder of millions of lives.

Stas B.
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March 2008

@GibbSticks: Yeah, I'm sure your post serves much purpose in this thread. I really don't think he cares much for this thread. His questions had been answered long ago. You're just feeling left out of the fun. Come on, join in. We can debate whether it's acceptable or not to recycle this thread for a debate. ::)

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Stas B. said:

Look, basically, you lose this one automatically.

Lose what? Is there some sort of competition going on? Does this have anything to do with the little hissy fit you threw at Tomasu earlier?

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The guy is gone, the context isn't clear, whether my statement has served to mislead him isn't clear, so you technically can't prove what you need to prove to win. Go away.

You still seem to be failing to understand an extremely important thing here which is that I haven't at any point tried to prove anything. You're the only one who cares about proof. I said ages back that I can't offer any proof you would accept, so I'm not even going to attempt to.

You're actually taking this all quite seriously aren't you? As I already said, don't take things personally, and maybe have a long look at yourself and see if you can figure out why it's important to you to be RIGHT when nobody else cares.

Stas B.
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March 2008

LennyLen said:

Lose what? Is there some sort of competition going on? Does this have anything to do with the little hissy fit you threw at Tomasu earlier?

Lose the argument.
It doesn't matter if you care or not. Just stating a fact.
What does Thomas have to do with anything?
What makes you think I was angry at him?
I simply pointed out that he's clearly in no position to make his remarks if we consider the contents of his own posts.

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You still seem to be failing to understand an extremely important thing here which is that I haven't at any point tried to prove anything. You're the only one who cares about proof. I said ages back that I can't offer any proof you would accept, so I'm not even going to attempt to.

You're actually taking this all quite seriously aren't you? As I already said, don't take things personally, and maybe have a long look at yourself and see if you can figure out why it's important to you to be RIGHT when nobody else cares.

That's the problem. I thought we were having a discussion but all you do is spew nosense without making any valid points. I thought you just don't have the mental capacity to realize that. Turns out you're just not trying? What is the point of your incoherent babbling then, if it doesn't serve to validate your original claim?

Maybe you should take a look at yourself and see if you can figure out why it's important for you to keep up your irrelevant rethoric when you know how pointless it is. Why is it so important for you that the last word be yours, even if your last word is a load of nonsense?

I don't take things personally and it's not important for me to make you see that I'm right. I just don't like to leave things hanging. Seeing as you have no more valid arguments and resort to silly ad-hominem attacks, this discussion is closed.

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Stas B. said:

What does Thomas have to do with anything? I thought you just don't have the mental capacity to realize that. Turns out you're just not trying? What is the point of your incoherent babbling then, if it doesn't serve to validate your original claim?

I'm simply curious. It appeared that you were annoyed with him, so I was wondering if that caused an emotional response for you, which then caused you to act differently than normal. Such thinks interest me as I have HFA and generally find I rarely have emotional responses to anything, so when it appears that others are having them, I like to know what is happening exactly. I wondered if that was why you would continue to post when you no longer felt it was necessary, purely out of emotional reasons.

Mental capacity is quite prickly really. I spent a week going through WAIS testing about a decade ago, and ended up with an estimated IQ score of around 160. However I still have no idea why people do things, even though I can study somebodies reactions for weeks.

As to validating the original claim, I felt no need to continue to do so, as i felty I had already done so. Since I also felt that everything you said after "Read my previous post. It's not a "void". It's called a function. You can't destroy it, change it or reuse its name" was irrelevant in answering the OPs question, since you had already done that with the one sentence, everything you said afterwards was mere conjecture and therefor no longer entirely serious discussion. That's most likely just my take on things however, and I concede that you probably didn't see it that way.

Since this obviously then begs the question "Why do something if it's not important?" I also then ask "What is important?" This entore thread is a single trivial matter in the scope of this site, this site is inconsequential in the scope of the internet. The internet itself is really quite irrelevent when you compare it to the whole gamut of human endeavors. And humanity in turn means nothing on a universal scale. So the answe to the begged question, and the answer to why I do anything really is "I felt like it."

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Maybe you should take a look at yourself and see if you can figure out why it's important for you to keep up your irrelevant rhetoric when you know how pointless it is. Why is it so important for you that the last word be yours, even if your last word is a load of nonsense?

I could ask the same of you since I consider posting when you don't seem to want to to be nonsensical.

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I don't take things personally and it's not important for me to make you see that I'm right. I just don't like to leave things hanging. Seeing as you have no more valid arguments and resort to silly ad-hominem attacks, this discussion is closed.

There were no ad-hominem attacks as I made no comments about you personally, and certainly didn't try to use a comment about you to counter anything you said. If you perceived anything I said to be a personal attack, then you were mistaken (and if you let me know what you thought were, I can try to clarify what I actually meant to you).

Stas B.
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March 2008

LennyLen said:

I'm simply curious. It appeared that you were annoyed with him, so I was wondering if that caused an emotional response for you, which then caused you to act differently than normal

It's not different than normal for me. It's what I sound like without that thin veil of politeness. It's not my nature, to be polite. It's a burden and I see no reason to keep it up when dealing with obvious trolls.

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I wondered if that was why you would continue to post when you no longer felt it was necessary, purely out of emotional reasons.

I don't like to leave things hanging. Call that an emotional reason if you like.

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Mental capacity is quite prickly really. I spent a week going through WAIS testing about a decade ago, and ended up with an estimated IQ score of around 160. However I still have no idea why people do things, even though I can study somebodies reactions for weeks.

With an IQ like yours, you should be looking for a cure to cancer. Too bad you waste your brilliance trying too hard to sound smart on the internet.

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As to validating the original claim, I felt no need to continue to do so, as i felty I had already done so.

Well, it's nice that you felt that way, but that's in your head. In the real world, it remains completely arbitrary untill you offer a proof that I can't counter with a valid argument. If you don't care to do that, that's perfectly fine. That discussion is closed and your criticism remains arbitrary.

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Since I also felt that everything you said after "Read my previous post. It's not a "void". It's called a function. You can't destroy it, change it or reuse its name" was irrelevant in answering the OPs question, since you had already done that with the one sentence, everything you said afterwards was mere conjecture and therefor no longer entirely serious discussion. That's most likely just my take on things however, and I concede that you probably didn't see it that way.

Since this obviously then begs the question "Why do something if it's not important?" I also then ask "What is important?" This entore thread is a single trivial matter in the scope of this site, this site is inconsequential in the scope of the internet. The internet itself is really quite irrelevent when you compare it to the whole gamut of human endeavors. And humanity in turn means nothing on a universal scale. So the answe to the begged question, and the answer to why I do anything really is "I felt like it."

Herp derp. There you go again, babbling nonsense, trying to be a smartass. Good job.

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I could ask the same of you since I consider posting when you don't seem to want to to be nonsensical.

That didn't make any sense.

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There were no ad-hominem attacks as I made no comments about you personally, and certainly didn't try to use a comment about you to counter anything you said. If you perceived anything I said to be a personal attack, then you were mistaken (and if you let me know what you thought were, I can try to clarify what I actually meant to you).

Wow, you're actually right this time. Since you weren't even trying to say anything relevant or have an actual discussion, your nonsense about me having a "hissy fit" and being too concerned with proving myself to random internet people can't even be considered ad hominem.

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