I'm pretty sure I could whip up a convincing-at-first-glance PDF that claimed I was born in Hawaii and my name was Leroy Jenkins, but I'm insufficiently motivated.

So it turns out that Trump is polling pretty high. But I recall hearing that polling high so early on in an election means you're pretty much guaranteed to NOT get elected.

Hahaha. I'm going to have to grab another beer. This is almost as much fun as beating the hawks.

Yes, there's a large group of right-wing Republicans who are racist. Is that news to you? And the more extreme you are, the louder you are.

If Obama's father were an English speaking white Canadian with a less scary sounding last name and there was a similar 0.000001% probability that he was born in Vancouver instead of Seattle, this would have blown over a long time ago.

If he were white, then people wouldn't be scared that he was a closet Muslim looking to destroy America. There are not many occasions where I would attribute something like this to race, but this is definitely one of them.

Again, these same people don't seem to care that McCain wasn't born in the USA. Why? Partially because he's a Republican, but mostly because he doesn't look like a scary terrorist to them.

And no, I don't think every person who has (or had, at least) doubts is racist, but I think the driving force behind this topic are a group of people looking to cater to the person who is scared of somebody who doesn't look like a righteous, white, God-fearing Christian.

Well put ML!

As far as photo shop goes, people have said they've held it, again, one was a republican department of official:

This isn't an isolated incident. The Snopes people (or was it factcheck? I can't remember, it's been so long.) have pictures of them holding the original too (since the photoshop claim was used for that one too.)

And lots of other right-wingers have come out and said he was born in Hawaii too.

This whole thing is ridiculous. I'm not an Obama supporter, but he's better than the current alternatives and I'm sad to say, as ML put it, that I will be voting for him in 2012 as well.

As for right-wing racists, keep in mind also that many of the right-wing presidential possibilities for 2012, though they have denied it, have been doing and saying some crazy racist things lately. It's scary that people like this aren't in jail.

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I don't. Most of the rules we have anymore are just for the legalization of crimes committed by the government and big corporations... We certainly don't get to hold either of them accountable ever. At any rate, there's more than enough proof that this is all retarded and that you're just buying what trump is selling (that's his job after all.)[/opinion]

Is Donald Trump not a member of any race?.. Hold on, checking his birth certificate(not really), I'm gonna say he's caucasian. He has a race. This makes you racist. Tell me, if you paint a white man black, does that make you hate him less and defend him vigorously? I would like to get in contact with you so we can perform some experiments to determine the extent of your racism, and you clearly are a racist. There's absolutely no doubt after these comments regarding Trump. It's just so awful that you would say a thing like that.

Now, we all know about the KKK. I saw a show once a long time ago where they had a member of the KKK speaking, he was doing community service, forced to pick up trash alongside the highway. The quote, as I remember it (it's been years), "Having to put this white trash in this black bag... it just bothers me!".. Now, I, not being racist, conclude that while different races may look different, they all express racism in the same manner, because we are after all human. I don't think there's a necessary mental difference between races. Therefor, it is completely possible to also be racist against your own race.

Now, there's a clan which you may not have heard of. It's a super secret underground liberal organization called the JJJ.. We at the Foundation for the Study of Racism have determined this to mean Jell-o Jive Jiggolo or something along that line. This is actually a group of people racist against so called 'whities'. Yes, they do wear black robes. See, the reason you haven't heard of them is because during their secret nightly meetings, they're all dressed in black. You can't see them! That's why the KKK is so well known and the JJJ isn't! Now, I know what you're thinking... The KKK surely knows about them even if we don't. You're right. They do. But they're two racist groups. Having that in common, they get along just fine.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure if I try to get you to put black trash into a white bag, you'll be thoroughly disturbed by it. When we perform this experiment, I'll have you in a white padded room so that you won't hurt anyone during your highly racist rampage... Which will probably drive you even further over the edge, but hey, it's the only color I can get on such short notice... In fact, I don't think they make black padded rooms. Your problem, not mine.

If you're interested, let's set it up. You can contact me at princealdubiofnigeria@yahoo.com . If you think the e-mail address is fishy, I borrowed it from a good Nigerian prince friend of mine that I met just recently through my e-mail. I'm pretty sure he's black, heck, he may even be racist like you, so you shouldn't be offended by e-mailing him. By the way, we'll want to set it up within the next 3 weeks. I'm expecting a 20 million USD check in the mail and I'll be living it up after that and no longer care about studying you.

[EDIT] I may need piccolo to provide me some assistance with some of that kick ass technology he's always whipping out. Maybe a perpetual-motion powered racism detector device.

It had nothing to do with Trump, but now he is using it as a platform to relate to the conservative / WASPy Republicans. He knows he won't stand a chance against the Huckabees of the party if he doesn't get some solid backing from those people.

Yep, they'd want somebody who does what he's told.

I think the national pass time for canadians is being at fault.

Is "pass time" Canadian for "pastime"?

No disrespect Matthew L., but I think you are much further from independent middle than you realize. If you spent any decent time around conservatives to recognize their differences you wouldn't be so vocal about your beliefs.

The problem I was referring to was where some of the writing was a single, solid color (instead of the fuzzier colors on the rest of the writing). One of my friends is using this as the most damning piece of evidence of forgery.