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So, Firefox 4...
torhu
Member #2,727
September 2002
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Personas works even better with FF4 than with 3.x. Why have the boring blue background when you could put this there instead?

kenmasters1976
Member #8,794
July 2007

I tried Personas on Firefox 3.x and removed it. I tried it on Firefox 4 and I went back to the default theme. It looks nice but with most Personas I can't see my tabs or read the tabs caption. That may not be a problem for most people but I just can't get used to it.

MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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I don't mind the default blue. If there was a theme that was basically the default, but red, I would switch to that.

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Neil Roy
Member #2,229
April 2002
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Personas [www.getpersonas.com] works even better with FF4 than with 3.x. Why have the boring blue background when you could put this [www.getpersonas.com] there instead?

:o Hello!!! Guess I found a new persona... thanks for that! ;D

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Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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I like how people are always trying to get things the way they used to be. Old farts hate change.

Because once you're used to an arbitrary set-up, it's hard to see why you would have to adapt to a different, equally arbitrary, set-up just to get other completely unrelated benefits.

I don't mind the default blue.

Firefox has never been blue for me, always gray.

I like FF4's look, but I always ran FF3 with every toolbar and menu disabled.

This is what FF4 looks like on my machine:
{"name":"603760","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/5\/155125ecd22be9767f86e416179938ec.png","w":1280,"h":800,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/5\/155125ecd22be9767f86e416179938ec"}603760
That's the entire screen btw; the one-pixel wide red border is the window decoration. Doesn't get much cleaner than that.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Because once you're used to an arbitrary set-up, it's hard to see why you would have to adapt to a different, equally arbitrary, set-up just to get other completely unrelated benefits.

There's nothing to adapt to, unless you are some old fart who memorized that the third button from the left does some thing, and when it's now the fourth button you have a panic-attack. :-[

Neil Roy
Member #2,229
April 2002
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And the reason behind moving buttons around is??

Space saving maybe? From left to right saves space? It's pointless other than to try and make it look "new". If it isn't broken, I see no reason to fix it.

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type568
Member #8,381
March 2007
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I'm not sure I noticed any changes except for the fact I could send my stuff to top. Now I can also think others stuff to top.

Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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There's nothing to adapt to, unless you are some old fart who memorized that the third button from the left does some thing, and when it's now the fourth button you have a panic-attack.

I don't memorize things like that, but I don't like it when my automatisms break either. Not that I'd throw a fit about it, it's merely a mild annoyance, but still one I like to avoid. I carry my .vimrc around on a flash stick for a reason.

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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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I'm still stuck with FF 3.6 waiting for packages to be updated. :( The speed will be nice though. I currently have about 130 tabs open (and saved in my session). It's not slow at all. It's very slow to start up, obviously, but that's a once or twice per day hit. This is my j0rb workstation too. Only like 3 GB DDR2 and like 2.1 GHz dual core AMD (~4 or so years old). I use Vimperator so I have all toolbars hidden. I usually keep the Web developer toolbar visible, but since I don't use it for much I just decided to give it a shot without it. :)

William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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how do you save a session?

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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Install and configure the Session Manager extension. :) There are other session saving extensions too if you prefer.

gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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I just installed it. After unchecking "tabs on top" (hey, at least they gave us a choice this time :P), the only major difference is that all the fonts look like complete arse...
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And that the status bar has an extremely annoying delay when mousing over links.

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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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about:config, gfx.direct2d.disabled => true

The Direct2D stuff craps up the fonts in my experience. (By the way, this is a Windows problem... IE9 looks just as bad with it enabled.)

gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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You could apparently disable it in the regular options menu: Options->Advanced->Browsing->Use hardware accelearation when available. The annoying status bar delay OTOH required about:configing (browser.overlink-delay). :P

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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I'm not sure if the "Use hardware acceleration" is the same thing or not. I left that checked, and just disabled Direct2D.

Oscar Giner
Member #2,207
April 2002
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Weird, fonts render correctly for me. Dissabling that Direct2D options didn't make any visible difference. Buggy or outdated drivers maybe?

Neil Roy
Member #2,229
April 2002
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Same here, my fonts look fine. I was staring at them trying to see what you were talking about and nothing. ;)

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Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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bamccaig said:

I'm still stuck with FF 3.6 waiting for packages to be updated.

I just installed the gzipped precompiled version from mozilla next to the official debian Iceweasel. No problems whatsoever. Fonts are equally fine.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Direct2D rendering is strictly a Windows issue.

axilmar
Member #1,204
April 2001

I've switched to FF4, but the difference to FF3 is minimal. I reconfigured the toolbar to have the refresh and home buttons on the left side, and now the only two visible differences with FF3 is that the tabs are on top (which is nice, and makes more sense than the opposite), and that there is no status bar.

Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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The tab headers also look slightly different.

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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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I just installed the gzipped precompiled version from mozilla next to the official debian Iceweasel. No problems whatsoever. Fonts are equally fine.

That never occurred to me. :P I just did the same and it seems to be working. It'll take a bit of time to get used to the slightly different look and feel and see whether or not it has any annoyances compared to 3.6, but so far it seems Vimperator and Firebug work (which are the most important extensions). :)

Edit: Any other Vimperator users notice that it no longer shows https status in the status bar? :( Means that if you want to know that information at a glance you apparently have to keep the navigation bar visible. :(

Dan Barton
Member #12,693
March 2011

Just installed it on my end and can't get my web site (http://www.mycolorcopies.com) to display properly. Didn't have a problem with earlier version.

Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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The look and feel aren't much different for me - I enabled the menu bar, moved the tabs to the top, so now I have pretty much 3.6 with prettier tab headers. Yeah, the reload / stop buttons have been moved, but I never really used them anyway.

Just installed it on my end and can't get my web site (http://www.mycolorcopies.com) to display properly. Didn't have a problem with earlier version.

My guess would be that you're doing something funky (read: undefined in the HTML specs) that FF 4 chooses to guess-fix differently. Not that I'm seeing much of a problem really, it seems to work just fine for me (except the iframe in the header, but it's explicitly set to the height it is displayed at, so you can't blame that on the browser).

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