Nope. There's some button-clicking involved.

I think I do know C. I've read the complete C99 standard multiple times for one reason or another. There's things I wouldn't know without looking them up like strict aliasing but I'd put those things mostly under compiler differences. So I guess I can say I know like 95% of C. Compared to that I do know about 20% of the C++98 standard and probably about 5% of C++1x. So I don't know the latter two at all basically. While I now could code a bit of C++ it would mean I'd constantly look up the things I don't know and waste a lot of time doing so. I'd learn more and more of it, but in the bits I've seen I already saw some major design flaws - and so I have no desire to know more of the language - I would consider it a waste of time. I preferred to switch to Python instead which is a whole new level when it comes to how advanced a language is.

Well, procedural is the much better choice for some things. It always depends what you are working on, but in a bigger project you likely can't rigidly apply one paradigm. Myself I do use a lot of OO though. But the syntactic additions which C++ has to make OO supposedly easier just seem all so badly done to me, right ideas but followed through in ad hoc and wrong ways.

My C code used polymorphism a lot (before I switched to Python) so that's not a reason to go C++ But of course for a large part it's a personal preference that I don't like C++ - I simply happen to dislike complicated things. It's also why I like Lua, even it's a bit weird (variables are global by default? arrays starting with 1?) but if you ignore the closures it's a really simple language.

So based on your pattern detection when do you think we should expect the thread to re occur by the original poster?

Interesting... maybe by 2017 A5 will have that al_create_game() method. (No I don't have anything even remotely meaningful to contribute.)

I'll start:

void al_create_game()
{
   // todo
}

We sure we want to make this a void function?

Somebody should just write a minimalist pong clone, compile it into allegro-game-5.1.so, and make the entry point al_create_game(). It would be a fun inside joke to use whenever. It would certainly put allegro ahead when n00bs ask how hard it is to create a game with Allegro.

Yeah, you're right. Hold on, I have the C standards committee on the phone...

You know, we could patch GCC and MinGW to link to preinstalled Allegro libraries by default... For teh n00bs. I'm not going to do it, but you feel free.

Hmm. I first used C++ more than 12 years ago, and I still don't know it very well. Should I quit too?

Take Me for example. My spelling is crap.

I used a word that was easier to spell. at work I use text to speach apps to make sure I got the right words.

Take for example that girl i talked out. With the her degree she can become a business analyses, or a project manager. These job are still in the field but do less programing.

I was stuck on why an ice box would shock somebody, then I realized he meant "refrigerator".

An ice box is, exactly as it says, a box with ice in it. It's not synonymous with "refrigerator".*

They may be used interchangeably in some places, though.

_{* Funnily enough, I had to use Firefox's spell checker to spell "refrigerator" properly.}

I think his point was that in some languages it's the literal translation of refrigerator.