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Retro Bit - NES/SNES Gaming System - Controllers |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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I finally went ahead and ordered some stuff from thinkgeek.com. The Retro Duo uses SNES compatible controllers (so no Duck Hunt, unfortunately). It comes with two. It's been a LONG time since I've played an original NES or SNES[1], but I think these controllers have connectivity issues. That or I've been "spoiled" by PlayStation for 11 years. When I push the "down" button on the controller in SMB, Mario ducks momentarily, but goes back up again. I was confused by this at first because I could swear he would stay ducked as long as you held the button. I tried switching controllers and the same thing happened. I played with it a little bit and realized that I could stay ducked if I only pressed the button half-way. Further than that and it loses the connection. It seems all of the buttons have imperfections like this. The system itself so far seems to work OK (though I've only played SMB so far, using the games collection I got with the NES from eBay). I would like to play with controllers that work. Does anybody have any tips for how I might improve the connectivity of these controllers? I opened one of them up to find a circuit board (surprise!) with "rubber" pieces between the "buttons" and circuit. I was thinking maybe adding extra conductive material (i.e., solder) "somewhere" would ensure a connection whenever a button is pressed down, but I'm not really sure if that's correct or where it should go. Maybe I'd be better off trying to find a decent SNES controller on eBay? The problem with that is that the SNES is approximately 20 years old so finding controllers in decent shape without stains or wear is pretty unlikely... References
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Ben Delacob
Member #6,141
August 2005
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Local flea markets might actually be as good as or better than ebay for original controllers (& systems). The trick is finding ones that aren't meant for the over 60 crowd. __________________________________ |
Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003
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Did you try contacting Thinkgeek? I would RMA the broken controllers.
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Ben Delacob said: Local flea markets might actually be as good as or better than ebay for original controllers (& systems). The trick is finding ones that aren't meant for the over 60 crowd.
What is a flea market and how do you find one? The name makes me think of there being actual fleas there, and I'm a little O/C for that. Billybob said: Did you try contacting Thinkgeek? I would RMA the broken controllers. I don't think they're really broken. I'm sure this is just how they're made. They're made in China and the whole system was only $50. I contacted ThinkGeek to ask about it[1], but it would be a lot of trouble to send the system back. Not to mention the shipping charges would probably be half of the console's total price; both ways would probably be about the same as a new console! References
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I would like to know how to get into the business of selling bambam broken merchandise. |
Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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You're against piracy and you're buying and unlicensed console? TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Matthew Leverton said: I would like to know how to get into the business of selling bambam broken merchandise.
Dario ff said: You're against piracy and you're buying and unlicensed console?
I didn't know if it was licensed or not. I assumed it was because it's being sold in the USA (persumably, through legitimate channels). ** EDIT ** I said: The Retro Duo uses SNES compatible controllers (so no Duck Hunt, unfortunately).
The console is compatible with official and third party SNES controllers, and adapters can be purchased for NES controllers as well as the Nintendo light gun. The same company also sells a light gun for the Retro Duo.
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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It's a piece of hardware which emulates both NES and SNES. I didn't know it was legal to sell something like that if the original NES and SNES was still available. I suppose Nintendo doesn't care about it though, since they don't really sell those consoles anymore, but... I thought for a moment it was something like the Family game[1] console distributed several years ago. References
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Oscar Giner
Member #2,207
April 2002
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Dario ff said: I thought for a moment it was something like the Family game console distributed several years ago.
That one appears to ship with exact copies of games from other systems. That is undoubtedly copyright infringement so I can see where that might cause problems. The Retro Duo doesn't ship with any games at all, so at least on that front there is no problem. I imagine the hardware is probably different than the original systems too. It probably comes down to patents or possibly trademarks. There are so many emulators these days that I doubt Nintendo cares. I'm certainly not going to buy a Wii just to play SMB. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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You know that if you have a modern video game system like a PS3 with Linux installed you could just used an emulator and not have to pay for it? You can even place the cartridges on top of the console so it feels like it's actually necessary. __________________________________________________ |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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StevenVI said: You know that if you have a modern video game system like a PS3 with Linux installed you could just used an emulator and not have to pay for it? Too bad for modern/legal systems you can't run linux on them anymore[1]. References
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StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: you can't run linux on them anymore[1]. You appear to have missed linking your reference. __________________________________________________ |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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StevenVI said:
You know that if you have a modern video game system like a PS3 with Linux installed you could just used an emulator and not have to pay for it? As Thomas Fjellstrom said, they have removed the Other OS option from the PS3. Either you left your system software at a previous version, which would prevent you from playing PlayStation games (online and offline), or you updated and lost that functionality. There are apparently some parties that are suing Sony over the issue so I wonder if it might come back eventually. It wasn't overly useful anyway. I had (have) Yellow Dog Linux installed on my PS3 (the closest thing to an official distribution) and the controllers weren't supported. I think I tried to find a guide to get them supported, but I had a nightmarish time even using the distribution. It had a minamalist desktop enviroment that I wasn't familiar with. I couldn't even do the simplest things. It didn't help that I had to plug in USB keyboard/mouse and use them on my lap. In any case, PC emulators just aren't the same. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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I thought there were USB Nes Controllers. bamccaig said: That one appears to ship with exact copies of games from other systems. That is undoubtedly copyright infringement so I can see where that might cause problems. That one's the difference to the actual distributed console here, mentioned in the Spanish article. It didn't come with any games AFAIK. TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
Steve Terry
Member #1,989
March 2002
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My guess is that when you push the buttons too hard you are warping the circuit board and causing a short. This would be due to poor design/quality of the controller if it is not a true SNES controller. You could try to modify the controller to reinforce the back of the circuit board under the buttons maybe? Other than that you should be able to find an SNES controller on e-bay just fine. ___________________________________ |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Yeah, it can't be that hard to get an NES or SNES controller. Go to Value Village or something. -- |
Slartibartfast
Member #8,789
June 2007
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Maybe you can cut out a piece of cardboard/paper and stick it behind the buttons so they can't go all the way in? ---- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Screw it, I just ordered two SNES controllers from eBay. USD$13 + S&H (total was around USD$23), but they're allegedly brand new, never been opened. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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Was the seller called Matthew Leverton? Just messing with you, that's good news. By the way, what NES/SNES games are you planning to try out? You can get a lot of good recommendations here. TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Dario ff said: Just messing with you, that's good news. By the way, what NES/SNES games are you planning to try out? You can get a lot of good recommendations here.
For now I have no real plans to buy any games. I already have my favorite NES games from an earlier purchase. Those are SMB, SMB3, and TLoZ (though this one I've only ever played a little bit so I suck and it will take some perserverance to get anywhere). None of them are in mint condition so I would happily get those 3 again if I could find them in perfect condition (clean, flawless, etc.). I hate things that are faded or stained, etc. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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Play the old Final Fantasy games I still have my SNES actually. --- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I have my old NES, SNES, N64, and Original GameBoy. My sister has the Gamecube, and we both have wii's, and NDSs. (mine is a lite, she has a normal nds) -- |
Bob Keane
Member #7,342
June 2006
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If you have the FF series, any chance you can post the roms for Nesticle? I have my N64. I had to disconnect it because it was screwing up the cable signal. By reading this sig, I, the reader, agree to render my soul to Bob Keane. I, the reader, understand this is a legally binding contract and freely render my soul. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I have an FF6 cart. (FF3 US) No way to rip the rom though. -- |
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