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Felix-The-Ghost
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I have this link... with an expired page and a members-only page...so I'm forced to refer to this link...

Honestly most of the stuff on that page means nothing to me -- I pretty much require a step-by-step approach for this, and it's not clear (to me, at least) what to do.

I see involvement with Xcode, the Terminal, Cocoa, and QuickTime. Someone had told me XCode came with Cocoa already...I don't know about QuickTime. And then I have the 4.4 source...but I really don't know what to do with it.

Anyone have a step-by-step guide to this?
I saw some Terminal commands on the linked page, but it doesn't say where to put the code initially and if I need to seek to that directory or whatever ('cd'in Windows)

I'm pretty much lost on installation.
I've quite content with this style of guides.
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Evert
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For Allegro 4 you don't need any libraries that don't come with the OS.
You'll need cmake, there's an OS X version for download on their home page.

In a terminal, go to the directory where you downloaded the Allegro, type "cmake" followed by "make". That's really all there is to it.

Your first two links are for using Allegro with xcode, and with build instructions that are not up-to-date for 4.4.

Felix-The-Ghost
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Evert said:

For Allegro 4 you don't need any libraries that don't come with the OS.
You mean like Quicktime / Cocoa, right?
You'll need cmake, there's an OS X version for download on their home page.
Downloading right now. Don't fully understand what it is though.

In a terminal, go to the directory where you downloaded the Allegro, type "cmake" followed by "make". That's really all there is to it.
How do I 'go to' in Mac? In Windows it's 'cd...' is it the same?

Your first two links are for using Allegro with xcode, and with build instructions that are not up-to-date for 4.4.
Um ok...so I just do what you said right

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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Assuming OSX console is Unix-like, cd <dir> will work

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The MS-DOS prompt 'cd' was based on Unix...

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Felix-The-Ghost
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Yeah, I found out it is indeed 'cd'
Unfortunatley I have somehow messed up something. A variable was not set, it claims.

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Last login: Mon Feb 22 08:09:10 on console
D60-MAC-07:~ sstutzman$ cd /Users/sstutzman/Desktop/Allegro/allegro-4.4
D60-MAC-07:allegro-4.4 sstutzman$ cmake
cmake version 2.8.0
Usage

cmake [options] <path-to-source>
cmake [options] <path-to-existing-build>

Options
-C <initial-cache> = Pre-load a script to populate the cache.
-D <var>:<type>=<value> = Create a cmake cache entry.
-U <globbing_expr> = Remove matching entries from CMake cache.
-G <generator-name> = Specify a makefile generator.
-Wno-dev = Suppress developer warnings.
-Wdev = Enable developer warnings.
-E = CMake command mode.
-i = Run in wizard mode.
-L[A][H] = List non-advanced cached variables.
--build <dir> = Build a CMake-generated project binary tree.
-N = View mode only.
-P <file> = Process script mode.
--graphviz=[file] = Generate graphviz of dependencies.
--system-information [file] = Dump information about this system.
--debug-trycompile = Do not delete the try compile directories..
--debug-output = Put cmake in a debug mode.
--trace = Put cmake in trace mode.
--help-command cmd [file] = Print help for a single command and exit.
--help-command-list [file] = List available listfile commands and exit.
--help-commands [file] = Print help for all commands and exit.
--help-compatcommands [file]= Print help for compatibility commands.
--help-module module [file] = Print help for a single module and exit.
--help-module-list [file] = List available modules and exit.
--help-modules [file] = Print help for all modules and exit.
--help-custom-modules [file]= Print help for all custom modules and exit.
--help-policy cmp [file] = Print help for a single policy and exit.
--help-policies [file] = Print help for all policies and exit.
--help-property prop [file] = Print help for a single property and exit.
--help-property-list [file] = List available properties and exit.
--help-properties [file] = Print help for all properties and exit.
--help-variable var [file] = Print help for a single variable and exit.
--help-variable-list [file] = List documented variables and exit.
--help-variables [file] = Print help for all variables and exit.
--copyright [file] = Print the CMake copyright and exit.
--help = Print usage information and exit.
--help-full [file] = Print full help and exit.
--help-html [file] = Print full help in HTML format.
--help-man [file] = Print full help as a UNIX man page and exit.
--version [file] = Show program name/version banner and exit.

Generators

The following generators are available on this platform:
Unix Makefiles = Generates standard UNIX makefiles.
Xcode = Generate XCode project files.
CodeBlocks - Unix Makefiles = Generates CodeBlocks project files.
Eclipse CDT4 - Unix Makefiles
= Generates Eclipse CDT 4.0 project files.
KDevelop3 = Generates KDevelop 3 project files.
KDevelop3 - Unix Makefiles = Generates KDevelop 3 project files.

D60-MAC-07:allegro-4.4 sstutzman$ make
Your DJGPP environment variable is not set correctly! It should
point to the djgpp.env file: see the djgpp readme.1st for details.
D60-MAC-07:allegro-4.4 sstutzman$ cmake make
CMake Error: The source directory "/Users/sstutzman/Desktop/Allegro/allegro-4.4/make" does not exist.
Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
D60-MAC-07:allegro-4.4 sstutzman$

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Evert
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Assuming OSX console is Unix-like, cd <dir> will work

It runs bash.

Downloading right now. Don't fully understand what it is though.

Cmake is a "configurator" that detects how your system is set up, where dependent libraries are and which compiler you have. It then creates a makefile for you to use.

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How do I 'go to' in Mac? In Windows it's 'cd...' is it the same?

Ok, you may want to read up on some basic BASH terminal commands. If you're even vaguely familiar with Linux, it's exactly the same. Or you could wait for someone who is less of a commandline user than I am to explain how to do things differently. ;)

Alternatively, there is a way to run a CMake GUI application (I think you just run CMake.app). There you select the directory where you downloaded Allegro, and follow the on-screen instructions for configuring. You can also set it to write an XCode project file rather than a Makefile. The XCode project file you can then open in XCode, and compile Allegro through that. I've never used it though, so you'll be a little more on your own there.

EDIT:
ok, try "cmake ." to make it clear that it should use the current directory. I figured that'd be the default, but maybe not.

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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Last login: Mon Feb 22 13:22:33 on ttys000
D60-MAC-07:~ sstutzman$ cd /Users/sstutzman/Desktop/Allegro/allegro-4.4
D60-MAC-07:allegro-4.4 sstutzman$ cmake .
CMake Error: The source directory "/Users/sstutzman/Desktop/Allegro/allegro-4.4" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.
Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
D60-MAC-07:allegro-4.4 sstutzman$

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Evert
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The source directory "/Users/sstutzman/Desktop/Allegro/allegro-4.4" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.

Well, where is it then?
What is in that directory?

Felix-The-Ghost
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...there isn't one.
There is a cmakecache.txt but it might be from cmake itself.
Maybe I'll try extracting Allegro again.
edit: nope. I don't know what I'm doing.

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Evert
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Ok, so:
1. Which link did you use to download the sources?
2. Where and how did you unpack them?
3. What is the content of the source directory?

For the last one, you can either (1) run "ls" from a terminal in the directory where you unpacked the sources and post the result here, or (2) open the directory in the Finder, press command-A (select all), command-C (copy) and then hit command-V (paste) in the reply box here.

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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src said:

allegro.c
amd64
beos
blit.c
bmp.c
c
clip3d.c
clip3df.c
colblend.c
color.c
config.c
datafile.c
dataregi.c
digmid.c
dispsw.c
dither.c
dos
drvlist.c
file.c
fli.c
flood.c
font.c
fontbios.c
fontbmp.c
fontdat.c
fontgrx.c
fonttxt.c
fsel.c
gfx.c
glyph.c
graphics.c
gsprite.c
gui.c
guiproc.c
i386
inline.c
joystick.c
keyboard.c
lbm.c
libc.c
linux
lzss.c
mac
macosx
math.c
math3d.c
midi.c
misc
mixer.c
modesel.c
mouse.c
pcx.c
poly3d.c
polygon.c
ppc
psp
qnx
quantize.c
quat.c
readbmp.c
readfont.c
readsmp.c
rle.c
rotate.c
scene3d.c
sound.c
spline.c
stream.c
text.c
tga.c
timer.c
unicode.c
unix
vtable.c
vtable8.c
vtable15.c
vtable16.c
vtable24.c
vtable32.c
win
x

When I extract from the original .zip...there is no 'src'
I had a whole directory though with everything.
Where should I get 4.4?

Extracted the .zip to the desktop as 'allegro-4.4'

Edit: Re-downloaded 4.4 from here and did the same commands. It's compiling. It says a lot of it is deprecated though...should I be concerned? Also where is that pastebin thing so I can post it.

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Evert
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Ok, that's messed up - that's literally just the Allegro source, which is only a part of what's supposed to be in the archive. Where did you get it?
Get latest stable source from http://alleg.sourceforge.net/wip.html, either the zip file or the .tar.gz file (I guess the latter is what you're supposed to get as it's 'UNIX friendly', but it really doesn't matter).
Unpack that, and then follow the instructions I posted above (you can use the GUI version of CMake if you prefer, it should be under Applications in the Finder).

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Edit: Re-downloaded 4.4 from here [www.strangesoft.net] and did the same commands. It's compiling.

Ok, good.

It says a lot of it is deprecated though...should I be concerned?

No. Yes. Maybe.
The OS X port of Allegro 4 sits on top of the QuickDraw API, which has been deprecated for a while now. It should be updated, if someone who knows how to do that cares enough to do it. Apart from the warning though, things will work with one caveat: the APIs haven't been ported to 64 bit (since they're deprecated) and therefore Allegro cannot be compiled as 64 bit on Snow Leopard. The same goes for programs using Allegro; they'll need to be compiled as 32 bit binaries. The compiler flag (for gcc) you're looking for is "-m32", I don't know how to set that option from XCode, but there should be an option for it somewhere.

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Also where is that pastebin thing so I can post it.

Sorry, what?

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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See above edit. :)
Don't know what to do though. :-/
Wait maybe is your link more stable with less deprecated things?

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Evert
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Edited my post as well.

If you want a version of Allegro that compiles on Snow Leopard without deprecation warnings, you'll have to get 4.9 current SVN - which isn't much help if you're working on an Allegro 4.2/4.4 project.

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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I'm planning on using Code::Blocks for development...or would Xcode be better?
I wouldn't know all of the linker settings for Mac.

About pastebin -- there's a link to it on the IRC channel I believe. It's where you put long amounts of text and supply a link so as not to post too much that stretches the page.

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OnlineCop
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I haven't read very much of this thread.

But I just downloaded and installed allegro 4.4 on my Mac today, and got a project working with XCode, so figured I'd discuss what I did.

  1. Download the .tar.gz version (not the .zip version)

  2. Extract the file

  3. Terminal: cd into the directory with the unpacked allegro sources

  4. mkdir Build/

  5. cd Build/

  6. cmake -DWANT_FRAMEWORKS=yes ..

  7. make all

  8. sudo make install

The first time I installed allegro, there was no /usr/local/ directory, so I had to create them (I had to use sudo because the /usr/ directory required higher privileges):

sudo mkdir /usr/local/
sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin/
sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/
sudo mkdir /usr/local/include/

For my XCode project, I added the framework, but it laughed and didn't compile correctly. So I had to right-click on the Linker and "Add existing files...". Since the "/usr/" directory is a hidden one, the Finder doesn't show it by default. Start typing the "/" for the "/usr/" directory, and Finder opens a "Go to the folder..." pane where I could type it in. Browse to "/usr/local/lib/" and select BOTH liballeg-main.a and liballeg.dylib.

(My project also included Lua, DUmB, and a few others, and I linked to them in the same way.)

Does this help anything?

Evert
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November 2000
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I'm planning on using Code::Blocks for development...or would Xcode be better?

Don't know, I use neither. Xcode is the standard development environment on OS X, so you'll find lots of information about it.
It's probably best to stick with something you know and feel comfortable with though.

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I wouldn't know all of the linker settings for Mac.

You don't have to.
Unless I misunderstand what you meant?

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About pastebin -- there's a link to it on the IRC channel I believe.

I never use IRC.

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It's where you put long amounts of text and supply a link so as not to post too much that stretches the page.

The code tags on the forum provide scrollbars within the post. I'd just abuse that.

Anyway, I take it everything has no compiled? Do things run properly now?

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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OnlineCop: I might try that. Supposedly though its made somewhere right now? I guess bin or whatever.

I tried to use <code> tags...

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Your post of 262.28KB is too long. The maximum size is 64K.

Pastebin truly is miraculous.
Errmm....

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Evert
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Supposedly though its made somewhere right now? I guess bin or whatever.

The build reached "100%", meaning it's done. Everything compiled.
Libraries should be under lib/macosx/, executables under examples/ (by the way - these aren't in application bundles, so you can't run them by double clicking in the Finder, you can run them from the command line though, or by right clicking on tehm in Finder and saying "open in Terminal").

Not to sound rude, but you do know how to browse through a directory structure to find files, right?

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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Oh, you mean how I casually guess at where files are at?
Yeah. I usually post a guess before I actually find out stuff.
Goes for other things too, just so it's logged in case I'm crazy.
Like how I wasn't sure if change directory (cd) was in Mac -- I obviously could've Googled it in the first place, or just tried it.
But I do get lost as to what to do with this...file I made. Especially when nothing is set in stone the wy the Windows guide was :) seems like there's a bajillion ways to do stuff now.

Also, by linker settings I meant like how in Windows I have to do -WI --subsystem,windows or something...are there any more things for Mac?

Edit: Examples were compiled succesfully...unless they were already there. Exlights is cooler than I remember...but lib/macosx only has source files...

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1cadigi.m 2camidi.m 3drivers.m 4hidjoy.m 5hidman.m 6keybd.m 7main.m 8pcpu.m 9qtmidi.m 10quartz.m 11qzfull.m 12qzmouse.m 13qzwindow.m 14soundman.m 15system.m

Unless my terminology / vocabulary is completely screwed up and that somehow is this 'library'.

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Evert
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Oh, you mean how I casually guess at where files are at?
Yeah. I usually post a guess before I actually find out stuff.

Yup, that's what I meant. It's fine, but when it's not clear if someone knows how to do something simple, or (more importantly) knows how to find out how to do that, it becomes more difficult to help them because it's not clear how much help they need.
That, and sometimes you run across people who can look things up, but won't, and I usually step back from helping such people because I would just be wasting my time. As long as that's not you, that's fine though.

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Also, by linker settings I meant like how in Windows I have to do -WI --subsystem,windows or something...are there any more things for Mac?

Ah, ok. No, only Windows needs something like that. :P

That said, you do need to do some extra work to make an "application bundle", but Allegro comes with a "fixbundle" utility that should help you there.
All systems have their curious perks, it seems.

Except Linux :P

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lib/macosx only has source files...

I think you accidentally clicked on src/macosx there. ;)

Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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Oh ok :D It sure was src/macosx.

But lib/macosx only has a tmpfile.txt or something useless (to me)

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bcc32
beos
djgpp
dmc
libaldat.a
liballeg-main.a
liballeg.4.4.0.dylib
liballeg.4.4.dylib
liballeg.dylib
liballeggl.a
libjpgalleg.a
libloadpng.a
macosx
*tmpfile.txt
mingw32
msvc
psp
qnx
unix
watcom

There are some *.a and *.dylib though in lib itself...are those it?

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OnlineCop
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Yes, the *.a and *.dylib are your library files (compiled). Those are what get copied (or should be copied) into the /usr/local/lib directory.

Felix-The-Ghost
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Hmm, doesn't appear to have been copied...
Plus I could only find usr/lib by searching for it

I guess just copy+paste it huh.

Here's its current contents:

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Nothing for Allegro or the other stuff in there. :-/

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November 2000
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Hmm, doesn't appear to have been copied...

Did you run "make install"?

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