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Derezo
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April 2001
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The talk of one's "natural holy time", and of a capitalised "Culture of Life", suggests religious preaching.

The guy is a Rabbi ;D
Even so though, there is a certain culture of death associated with the big monotheistic religions that want to be the only religions ("oneism"). "natural holy time" is just fancy religious speak for this "star time" I was talking about earlier. A different choice of words, which is what the problem with communication is on this topic -- connotations. People are typically unwilling to accept words they don't agree with, even if they do agree with the intent and meaning, because they attach some sort of stigma to them based on other things that have come in the same package with different contents.

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I wonder what it means to become "socially liberated". Surely it can't mean losing friends ???

I think it means to lift that veil of an "awkward feeling" from adult social life and follow a more connected social mindset. The idea is to become reconnected to everyone through an unseen layer of humanity we're being pulled away from, a sort of collective unconscious, which I think is associated with what is often described as a spiritual interconnectedness to every individual in some religions. The Kymatica movie forms a bit of an analogy of people who are disconnected as becoming "cancerous" over time. Everyone is still different though, and not everyone is disconnected from this just because they use the Gregorian calendar. It's not so cut and dry. However, I do think the calendar has a lot to do with a flawed perception of time.

He also says "psychically" liberated, which to me is a deeper understanding with your own psyche, making you psychic. That word holds plenty of connotations and stirs up images of a Jamaican woman with a bandanna for me, but it's nothing like what you see on TV or in "psychic" advertisements. You don't suddenly read palms or tarot cards, or pick out winning lottery numbers ;)

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shirking the calendar is certainly a novel metaphor for throwing away all those pesky commitments.

I hadn't thought of it in that way, but I don't have a lot of commitments to begin with. The calendar does reaffirm our commitments, but even without it you still need to commit to spend time on things, even if that time is tracked in a different way. It's not so much that you no longer track time, but instead you track time differently so that you are more connected to the moment you're observing. There's a lot of esoteric stuff out there about that, but it is chock full of language people tend not to like.

I think all of those cool pot t-shirts are what started you down the crazy path.

.. I don't have any. You should have done your homework ;)

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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You've seen them, and they caused you to spiral down the path of craziness because you, like all other people, are too weak minded to be unaffected by the mind altering drug known as Walmart t-shirts.

Derezo
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April 2001
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Oh teh noes!!! Everyone is a pot head because of Walmart!!! :o

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Bruce Perry
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April 2000

Walnuts contain pot? :o

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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Derezo, how can you be so sure that you've been enlightened? ::) Maybe you've just fallen for a scam like the rest of the population. Think about that for a while.

Derezo
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April 2001
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With that logic how can you be sure of anything? Can I be certain beyond my human capabilities? No. Not about this, and not about the taste of pineapple or my perception of the color blue. I could be the only one who tastes those and sees those the way that I do.

I don't toss around the word 'enlightenment' so easily though. I wouldn't call what I have experienced 'enlightenment', but I do think I am more aware of some things. To me, enlightenment means you are completely self aware. Every moment you participate in is with right purpose, right intent, and right action. I'm not there yet. :P

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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Derezo said:

I don't toss around the word 'enlightenment' so easily though. I wouldn't call what I have experienced 'enlightenment', but I do think I am more aware of some things.

I haven't been paying too much attention to you[1], but I'm almost certain I heard you call yourself enlightened in one of your crazy posts. :-/

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  1. After all, you don't make sense.
Derezo
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April 2001
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No, but Steve Allen said I could be on the path to my enlightenment, and I said that is true. I very well may be. In the same response I borrowed his terminology in saying that I may seek to enlighten the unenlightened once I've found my way.

I'm not intending to create any sort of sense ;)

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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

One of my friends went crazy after smoking too much pot. They locked him up in a psych ward with a pedophile in his room. Don't want to know how that ended...

Anyway, take it easy. Remember, moderation is the key.

Also, you are thinking way too much about the meaning of things. You know what youll have from all of this? Absolutely nothing. When you kick the bucket, your corpse will rot like all the rest, your brain will be eaten by worms, and all that knowledge, wisdom and THC will go to waste.

In capitalist America bank robs you.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Vanneto said:

One of my friends went crazy after smoking too much pot.

This doesn't actually prove the pot caused it. It could have been a political ad full of bullshit promises that drove him over the edge, or using IE, or any number of things.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Mark Oates
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March 2001
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Vanneto said:

Also, you are thinking way too much about the meaning of things. You know what youll have from all of this? Absolutely nothing. When you kick the bucket, your corpse will rot like all the rest, your brain will be eaten by worms, and all that knowledge, wisdom and THC will go to waste.

I've found that this is a very wise way to look at living. I too spend much time thinking about the nature of existence so I can "rise above it." But in the end, "living above it" can only detach you from the reality you are actually a part of - being a sheep, a friend, or a grain of sand.

Don't be afraid to enjoy what you got, even if it's not existential enough for you.

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Derezo
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April 2001
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Vanneto said:

Also, you are thinking way too much about the meaning of things. You know what youll have from all of this? Absolutely nothing.

Perhaps I do tear things apart too deeply, but some of that has become just automatic from the subjects I've been learning about. I already have my answer, which is what I've gotten from the experience, but it is an answer difficult to share. The focus went completely away from what I was trying to convey and instead on me and what I'm supposedly doing or doing wrong, or the illnesses I have or don't have, or whatever. Maybe I didn't direct the thread well enough. Having said that, I do want to share my answer, and this topic is sort of my first (second?) experiment in doing that.

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Remember, moderation is the key.

You don't think I currently smoke marijuana, do you? :-/
I don't now.

Don't be afraid to enjoy what you got, even if it's not existential enough for you.

My biggest problem is that I don't enjoy the things that people I know enjoy. Video games and beer are the two most popular items among people I know. I only think of them as war simulators and depressants though. :(
It seems like I grew out of them and nobody else did. I find it enjoyable to sit and read a book. Nobody else I know does crazy shit like that.
Other than that.. I'm trying ;D

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William Labbett
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March 2004
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The length of this thread proves you can keep a conversation going, that's for sure.

BAF
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December 2002
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Sevalecan
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June 2004
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BAF
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December 2002
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udside down?

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Anyway, before this dies off I gotta throw this in since it came to mind:

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So I went to the doctor...

Doctor, doctor, gimme the news;
I got a ... baaad caaase of Looney Tunes!

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Sevalecan
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June 2004
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BAF said:

udside down?

Spot the pattern, silly.

TeamTerradactyl: SevalecanDragon: I should shoot you for even CONSIDERING coding like that, but I was ROFLing too hard to stand up. I love it!
My blog about computer nonsense, etc.

Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

- Doctor, Doctor, it hurts when I do this!
- Don't do that then.

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