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Ron Novy
Member #6,982
March 2006
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1 stick = 1/2 a cup Arg.. Math make brain hurt... Ron stop drinky now. [edit] Matthew... He said stick... ---- |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Matthew Leverton said: The measuring cup is a standard size. It needs no description. There's no need to look up anything if you own a measuring cup. Some measuring cups don't give you a scale, from which you can accurately measure volumes, they'll just have 1/4, 1/2 and 1 cup measurements. Theses are not standard, as the volume of 1 cup differes from country to country (a metric cup is 250ml, an American cup is 237ml). Most cookbooks usually tell you at the beginning which they use, and if they don't you can usually figure which they mean by where the book was published. Matthew Leverton said: As odd as it may seem, a stick of butter is ... a stick of butter: Over here, butter usually comes in 500g blocks.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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LennyLen said: Over here, butter usually comes in 500g blocks. Then that's approximately two sticks of ye olde American butter. |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Matthew Leverton said: Then that's approximately two sticks of ye olde American butter. The image you posted says it weighs 4oz. 4oz is 113 grams, so one of our blocks is almost 4 1/2 of your sticks.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Yeah, I was thinking one stick was one cup. For what it's worth, they come in packs of four (~450 grams). |
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Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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Neil Walker said: theory is you burn more calories eating than you get from it
Common myth. --- |
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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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Tobias Dammers said: Your metabolic system is active anyway, even if you aren't eating anything at all. That doesn't mean that certain foods can't give less calories than are used during their digestion.
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Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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Neil Black said: That doesn't mean that certain foods can't give less calories than are used during their digestion. No, but it doesn't mean that their calorie balance is negative either. --- |
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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No, but it helps that you're taking in few calories but your body is using energy to chew, digest and distribute it. Tests showed that this kind of diet gave better results that a starvation diet. Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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Neil Walker said: I'm looking around websites for recipes and they're talking about cups. So I go off and find out what a cup is. Turns out that a cup isn't actually a weighted measure, it's a literal cup! wtf! a cup of sugar is a different weight to a cup of butter. Does nobody use scales or any kind of weights
We accept patches. -- |
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Sirocco
Member #88
April 2000
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Don Freeman
Member #5,110
October 2004
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No...A cup of pussy... -- |
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weapon_S
Member #7,859
October 2006
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To be honest, I didn't know a cup was a "real" measure either. I suspect it's a British thing to give the amounts in normal units. All the cookbooks I have seen only mention weight and volume in normal units for key ingredients: the meat, the flour, the water, the butter, the sugar. The rest is cups and pinches and the sort. |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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weapon_S said: I suspect it's a British thing to give the amounts in normal units. All the cookbooks I have seen only mention weight and volume in normal units for key ingredients: the meat, the flour, the water, the butter, the sugar. The rest is cups and pinches and the sort. I took a look through my cook-books (I have American, British, New Zealand and Australian), and they were pretty much consistent. Meat amounts were generally given in weight (except for specific portions such as 8 chicken drumsticks). Vegetables were given in weight, or by size (eg. 3 medium onions, 1 medium cauliflower, diced). Liquids were always listed by volume, as were powdered ingredients (exceptions were salt and pepper which were assumed to be to taste). Butter in all of them was by volume (teaspoons and tablespoons). The only way the American books differed was by sometimes specifying things such as 1 packet of artichoke hearts. This I find rather annoying as it's assumed the reader will know how big packets of things are (Does everything come in the same size in America?), and most of the ingredients specified this way are not available in packets here and must be bought fresh. All the American cook-books I have are from an 80's collection by Better Homes and Gardens, so it could be something specific to them. Quote: The rest is cups and pinches and the sort.
Um, cups are a normal measurement, whether you knew it or not.
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Think of your average household cook of one or two hundred years ago. They didn't have fancy balance scales or tiny 1/4 tsp measuring spoons, they had a few pottery cups, some flatware (spoons, forks, knives) pots & pans, dinner plates, a few bowls. I daresay meat was usually measured in pounds because that's the way it was sold (the merchant who sold meat all day long had a much stronger incentive to have a crude balance scale with some hopefully accurate weights) They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Arthur Kalliokoski said: And estimating 1/4 teaspoon wasn't as accurate as the amount of salt you could hold between your thumb and forefinger tip. One of my pinches is more than double one of my girlfriend's pinches. I know this from the time I went on a rant about what a stupidly inaccurate measurement a pinch is when I was reading an online recipe that called for nearly all it's ingredients in pinches and handfuls (I can hold three times as much macaroni in my hand as she can). I've been told by several people that my irritation with such unspecific measurements is because I'm half Dutch. I know it bugs my mother too, so perhaps there's some truth in that. Do any of our Dutch forum-goersget bothered by things like that?
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Ask your girlfriend to estimate filling a regular spoon 1/4 of the way up where you can't see it, dump the result into a glass or something. Now she repeats the process 3 more times. Now you duplicate that with the same spoon. Does each result fill the spoon? They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Arthur Kalliokoski said: Ask your girlfriend to estimate filling a regular spoon 1/4 of the way up where you can't see it, dump the result into a glass or something. Now she repeats the process 3 more times. Now you duplicate that with the same spoon. I'm sure it's just as inaccurate. But in this day and age, when you can buy a set of platic measuring spoons for a few dollars, cook books have no reason to specify several pinches when they could use 1/4 teaspoon. Quote: Does each result fill the spoon?
I can actually get it pretty much bang on. But then again, I did used to mix powders for a living. I can also free-pour a 30 ml shot ten times in a row into a rocks glass and then tip that into a shot glass and have the shot glass filled exactly to the rim every time.
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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LennyLen said: I'm sure it's just as inaccurate. But in this day and age, when you can buy a set of platic measuring spoons for a few dollars, cook books have no reason to specify several pinches when they could use 1/4 teaspoon. Indeed. I bought a set of measuring spoons. Each is a different size, down as small as 1/8th a teaspoon I think. possibly smaller. -- |
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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LennyLen said: I'm sure it's just as inaccurate. But in this day and age, when you can buy a set of platic measuring spoons for a few dollars, cook books have no reason to specify several pinches when they could use 1/4 teaspoon. Personally, I would prefer recipes to use accurate measurements for all ingredients (OMGz, a computer could do it!), but cooking isn't usually held up to the standards of science. I don't really care to cook so it doesn't bother me at all (the only things that I do "cook" require nothing more than heat and occasional stirring or flipping). I just hope that those that do cook for a living know enough about what they're doing to prepare my food properly. LennyLen said: I can also free-pour a 30 ml shot ten times in a row into a rocks glass and then tip that into a shot glass and have the shot glass filled exactly to the rim every time.
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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bamccaig said: but cooking isn't usually held up to the standards of science.
You've never heard of molecular gastronomy, have you?
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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LennyLen said: You've never heard of molecular gastronomy, have you?
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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bamccaig said: I never said that science doesn't apply to cooking (obviously it does). I simply said that the average user cooking doesn't care about being precise Yea, I know. I just love saying (writing) Molecular Gastronomy. It has such a nice ring to it. What's even more fun is Molecular Mixology. I've been to a couple of MM seminars, and some of the stuff we made was crazy. Alcoholic foam FTW!
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Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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LennyLen said: I've been told by several people that my irritation with such unspecific measurements is because I'm half Dutch. I know it bugs my mother too, so perhaps there's some truth in that. Do any of our Dutch forum-goersget bothered by things like that?
Evert said: I am used to recipes calling for "tablespoons", "teaspoons", "knifepoints" or "pinches" of something or other, which I know actually correspond to well-defined amounts, but I usually just take something that looks about right. Cooking is more an art than a science anyway.
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Slartibartfast
Member #8,789
June 2007
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LennyLen said: One of my pinches is more than double one of my girlfriend's pinches. I know this from the time I went on a rant about what a stupidly inaccurate measurement a pinch is when I was reading an online recipe that called for nearly all it's ingredients in pinches and handfuls (I can hold three times as much macaroni in my hand as she can).
Well, as long as the ratio is consistent, the ratios between ingredients will be the same and so the taste will be the same Quote: I've been told by several people that my irritation with such unspecific measurements is because I'm half Dutch. I know it bugs my mother too, so perhaps there's some truth in that. Do any of our Dutch forum-goersget bothered by things like that? I'm not dutch but I am also irritated with such measurements (just like I dislike Imperial measurements) ---- |
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